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Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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We benefited from it in London, I think we all wanted it too. Even if it kind of was an austerity Olympics compared to before it and after it? Sure we wasted some money here and there (was who the fuck needs a giant slide) but overall it turned an industrial wasteland into a useful area for East London.

The Olympics in London cost 11.3 Billion and generated revenue of 3.3 billion which doesn't exactly seem hugely beneficial. Of course in the usual London fashion most of the money came out of UK govt coffers, national lottery funding etc - so it was just a form of London sucking cash out of the rest of the UK to build infra, via the handy "Olympics" excuse, so I can see how a londoner might argue it was good as it wa…

I don't disagree with any particular point here but I'd like to point out that there are some second order effects from that investment money, it wasn't just "gone" and it didn't just go to the koffers of building contractors either.

I can give some examples;

1) Newham was a very impoverished area before the olympic stadium was set to move there. Now Stratford and Newham are desirable.. More desirable than Hackney which has been "up and coming" for as long as I lived there.

2) Internet in London is/was _abysmal_. Genuinely awful. I even wrote a exasperated blog post about it[0]. This was due to degraded and faulty ADSL being he only option and grossly oversubscribed even if it worked well- and the large providers only followed each other with fibre installations.

When the olympics rolled in there was an enormous infrastructure improvement - I even remember talking to some Telecity employees about it. -- That infrastructure was later sold on to last mile providers who expanded it a bit and I went from speeds worse than dial-up with frequent route drops to symmetric gigabit and IPv6 using a new company called "Hyperoptic". That was a real improvement for everyone in my area because they had given up on home internet. (no netflix, youtube, only basic banking websites possible).

[0]: https://blog.dijit.sh/the-true-state-of-london-broadband

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Olympics in London cost 11.3 Billion and generated revenue of 3.3 billion which doesn't exactly seem hugely beneficial. Of course in the usual London fashion most of the money came out of UK govt coffers, national lottery funding etc - so it was just a form of London sucking cash out of the rest of the UK to build infra, via the handy "Olympics" excuse, so I can see how a londoner might argue it was good as it wa…

Of all the boroughs I've lived in, in London, the East Village (a.k.a. Olympic village) and the adjacent Queen Elizabeth Park is by far my favourite, and it's still improving. It has also had an impact on the surrounding areas which, negative in terms of gentrification and ridiculous house prices, but very positive in terms of the flourishing local economy and community.

Sure, I mean if you have the entire UK lavish money on a small area of London, that small area will benefit! Nobody would deny that nobody has benefitted from the olympics - a very small area of the country and a small number of companies contracted to build things benefited greatly, at the cost of the rest of the UK.

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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They were going for sustainability angle like recycled medals, stadium benches out of reused wood, cardboard hybrid beds for the village, etc. COVID blew them all away though.

I feel like any article on the Olympics should mention that >80% of the Japanese population was against holding the Olympics [1]. And that in most respects it has be a disaster, I've lost count of the number of scandals and resignations... [2] Rather than being good PR for Japan, it feels like it's been overwhelmingly negative. On top of this, COVID19 infections are rapidly increasing (now at their highest level). Wh…

At least the Games serve to shine light on Japan's refusal to respect UN's Convention on the Rights of the Child, despite ratifying it in 1994.

Japan's Law incites and rewards Child Abductions by giving sole custody to the first abductor. Judicial visitation decisions are not enforced.

By refusing to protect the fundamental Right of Children to access both their parents directly and regularly, as per the CRC, Japan is a massive and frequent Child Right violator.

In 2019, Japan Minister of Justice publicly and cynically qualified the CRC of "non-binding", and the European Parliament's resolution denouncing the violations of being "unfunded".

Is is estimated that between 150,000 and 200,000 new children each year, the majority Japanese, have this basic Human Right violated in Japan.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/japan-cust...

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Fun fact: Electronic waste contains two orders of magnitude more gold per mass than actual gold ore.

That’s misleading, gold ore can have an extremely high gold content. The comparison is to the minimum threshold for economic extraction and that’s from rocks via chemical leaching not electronics.

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Olympics in London cost 11.3 Billion and generated revenue of 3.3 billion which doesn't exactly seem hugely beneficial. Of course in the usual London fashion most of the money came out of UK govt coffers, national lottery funding etc - so it was just a form of London sucking cash out of the rest of the UK to build infra, via the handy "Olympics" excuse, so I can see how a londoner might argue it was good as it wa…

I'm not sure where your jab at London taking govt funds came from. London, like most modern cities, generates a surplus that subsidizes surrounding suburban and rural areas[1]. It was still an awful waste of money, but it wasn't part of any trend. 1. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/may/23/uk-budget-d...

It comes from London frequently having money lavished on it that other areas don’t (eg - check public transport [1]) - and usually accompanied with a self-fulfilling prophecy about how other areas don’t generate tax income (which of course is because they don’t have good infra and investment). And this situation has been very much engineered by the UK government over the last 40 years, it isn’t some state of nature.

[1] https://www.ippr.org/news-and-media/press-releases/revealed-...

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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The 10,000+ athletes who flew around the world and the 100,000-odd attendees who also flew around the world can all offset their emissions with that savings /sarcasm.

I love athletics and competition, but do the Olympics promote activity or more sedentariness? They are certainly devastating to the environment.

We can achieve more sport, communication, and what they Olympics represent by promoting local fun and games: https://joshuaspodek.com/olympic-devastation-that-could-be-l....

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We benefited from it in London, I think we all wanted it too. Even if it kind of was an austerity Olympics compared to before it and after it? Sure we wasted some money here and there (was who the fuck needs a giant slide) but overall it turned an industrial wasteland into a useful area for East London.

> I think we all wanted it too Definitely not true. However, post hoc I am forced to admit it was not as colossal a waste of money as I'd expected, and honestly there was an astonishingly positive societal response. So, I was wrong , but I was not alone!

An astonishingly positive societal response which lasted how long? Do you think there have been long lasting benefits from that or was it just a nice few weeks? If the latter, which is my impression, I don't think that represents value for money at all.

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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The 10,000+ athletes who flew around the world and the 100,000-odd attendees who also flew around the world can all offset their emissions with that savings /sarcasm. I love athletics and competition, but do the Olympics promote activity or more sedentariness? They are certainly devastating to the environment. We can achieve more sport, communication, and what they Olympics represent by promoting local fun and games:…

Out of interest do you think it's worth sacrificing international sport competitions for the sake of the environment? What level of travel would you support, are continental competitions ok? National competitions?

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I can't help but think this olympics will go into the history books with an asterisk. That probably has something to do with Biles stepping down. It just feels weird.

Who?

Assuming this isn't a rhetorical question, Google is your friend here. OP wasn't making an obscure reference, her name is headline news around much of the world at the moment.

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Olympics in London cost 11.3 Billion and generated revenue of 3.3 billion which doesn't exactly seem hugely beneficial. Of course in the usual London fashion most of the money came out of UK govt coffers, national lottery funding etc - so it was just a form of London sucking cash out of the rest of the UK to build infra, via the handy "Olympics" excuse, so I can see how a londoner might argue it was good as it wa…

Of all the boroughs I've lived in, in London, the East Village (a.k.a. Olympic village) and the adjacent Queen Elizabeth Park is by far my favourite, and it's still improving. It has also had an impact on the surrounding areas which, negative in terms of gentrification and ridiculous house prices, but very positive in terms of the flourishing local economy and community.

Shame about the cladding fiasco though.

https://www.standard.co.uk/homesandproperty/buying-mortgages...

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