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Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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f0xytr0xy wrote: post #18
new299 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like any article on the Olympics should mention that >80% of the Japanese population was against holding the Olympics [1]. And that in most respects it has be a disaster, I've lost count of the number of scandals and resignations... [2] Rather than being good PR for Japan, it feels like it's been overwhelmingly negative. On top of this, COVID19 infections are rapidly increasing (now at their highest level). Wh…

> And that in most respects it has be a disaster, I've lost count of the number of scandals and resignations... [2] Rather than being good PR for Japan, it feels like it's been overwhelmingly negative. You are basically describing every olympics I can remember and most that I’ve read about before my birth. Assassinations, at least 5 decades of doping scandals by East Germany and USSR, ice skaters’ husbands attacking…

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Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Post by ekianjo »

poooogles wrote: post #23
ekianjo wrote: post #8

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Olympics is such a massive waste of money that nobody except politicians who want to show off with taxpayer money or industrials benefiting from government contracts would be for it.

We benefited from it in London, I think we all wanted it too. Even if it kind of was an austerity Olympics compared to before it and after it? Sure we wasted some money here and there (was who the fuck needs a giant slide) but overall it turned an industrial wasteland into a useful area for East London.

> We benefited from it in London

You can never say that for sure because the money spent on organizing Olympics could have been used somewhere else (or not used at all, therefore decreasing taxation). It was certainly a waste for anyone not living in London in any case.

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Post by ekianjo »

darkfirefly wrote: post #25
poooogles wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We benefited from it in London, I think we all wanted it too. Even if it kind of was an austerity Olympics compared to before it and after it? Sure we wasted some money here and there (was who the fuck needs a giant slide) but overall it turned an industrial wasteland into a useful area for East London.

Yeah, I'm not quite sure how other countries do it, but for the 2000 Olympics (Sydney) they basically renewed this giant landfill site. There's been a bunch of apartments, etc, built around there since then because it basically became a suburb where you could live.

> but for the 2000 Olympics (Sydney) they basically renewed this giant landfill site.

Why would you need the Olympics to have land repurposed. They were waiting for a good excuse? No need to have big expensive party if you could have done that in any other context. But then again you'd need to whole country to accept paying for making new apartments just in Sydney.

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Post by makeitdouble »

darkfirefly wrote: post #25
poooogles wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We benefited from it in London, I think we all wanted it too. Even if it kind of was an austerity Olympics compared to before it and after it? Sure we wasted some money here and there (was who the fuck needs a giant slide) but overall it turned an industrial wasteland into a useful area for East London.

Yeah, I'm not quite sure how other countries do it, but for the 2000 Olympics (Sydney) they basically renewed this giant landfill site. There's been a bunch of apartments, etc, built around there since then because it basically became a suburb where you could live.

I remember a report on how Sydney was the only Olympics for a while that was net positive.

Paris might also be, as they have very little new infra to build.

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Post by fomine3 »

poooogles wrote: post #23
ekianjo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Olympics is such a massive waste of money that nobody except politicians who want to show off with taxpayer money or industrials benefiting from government contracts would be for it.

We benefited from it in London, I think we all wanted it too. Even if it kind of was an austerity Olympics compared to before it and after it? Sure we wasted some money here and there (was who the fuck needs a giant slide) but overall it turned an industrial wasteland into a useful area for East London.

Well, Tokyo is most far from wasteland in Japan. It wastes money to most crowded city despite most towns are declining.

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Post by jedberg »

ekianjo wrote: post #8
new299 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like any article on the Olympics should mention that >80% of the Japanese population was against holding the Olympics [1]. And that in most respects it has be a disaster, I've lost count of the number of scandals and resignations... [2] Rather than being good PR for Japan, it feels like it's been overwhelmingly negative. On top of this, COVID19 infections are rapidly increasing (now at their highest level). Wh…

Olympics is such a massive waste of money that nobody except politicians who want to show off with taxpayer money or industrials benefiting from government contracts would be for it.

Every Olympics held in the United States has been profitable for the host city (and all but one in Canada) in large part because the infrastructure already exists.

Los Angeles is looking forward to having the games in 2028 because it gives them extra money to pay for infrastructure that they've been planning to build anyway.

San Francisco really wanted the 2028 games as well because it would have allowed us to finish building BART/CalTrain around the Bay, and we would have already had all the venues necessary with the various pro and college facilities around the Bay.

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Post by smt88 »

JetSetWilly wrote: post #29
poooogles wrote: post #23

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We benefited from it in London, I think we all wanted it too. Even if it kind of was an austerity Olympics compared to before it and after it? Sure we wasted some money here and there (was who the fuck needs a giant slide) but overall it turned an industrial wasteland into a useful area for East London.

The Olympics in London cost 11.3 Billion and generated revenue of 3.3 billion which doesn't exactly seem hugely beneficial. Of course in the usual London fashion most of the money came out of UK govt coffers, national lottery funding etc - so it was just a form of London sucking cash out of the rest of the UK to build infra, via the handy "Olympics" excuse, so I can see how a londoner might argue it was good as it wa…

I'm not sure where your jab at London taking govt funds came from.

London, like most modern cities, generates a surplus that subsidizes surrounding suburban and rural areas[1].

It was still an awful waste of money, but it wasn't part of any trend.

1. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/may/23/uk-budget-d...

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Post by jedberg »

makeitdouble wrote: post #34
darkfirefly wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I'm not quite sure how other countries do it, but for the 2000 Olympics (Sydney) they basically renewed this giant landfill site. There's been a bunch of apartments, etc, built around there since then because it basically became a suburb where you could live.

I remember a report on how Sydney was the only Olympics for a while that was net positive. Paris might also be, as they have very little new infra to build.

That's not correct. Sydney lost money, and Atlanta (4 years prior) made money: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_the_Olympic_Games

Re: Medals at Tokyo olympics are recycled from discarded electronic equipment

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Post by eyko »

JetSetWilly wrote: post #29
poooogles wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We benefited from it in London, I think we all wanted it too. Even if it kind of was an austerity Olympics compared to before it and after it? Sure we wasted some money here and there (was who the fuck needs a giant slide) but overall it turned an industrial wasteland into a useful area for East London.

The Olympics in London cost 11.3 Billion and generated revenue of 3.3 billion which doesn't exactly seem hugely beneficial. Of course in the usual London fashion most of the money came out of UK govt coffers, national lottery funding etc - so it was just a form of London sucking cash out of the rest of the UK to build infra, via the handy "Olympics" excuse, so I can see how a londoner might argue it was good as it wa…

Of all the boroughs I've lived in, in London, the East Village (a.k.a. Olympic village) and the adjacent Queen Elizabeth Park is by far my favourite, and it's still improving. It has also had an impact on the surrounding areas which, negative in terms of gentrification and ridiculous house prices, but very positive in terms of the flourishing local economy and community.
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