If they made office chairs, when will we have some office beds in the market?
38% of remote workers work from bed
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Re: 38% of remote workers work from bed
#372Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many people choose to live in a city. Not everyone wants to live in the middle of nowhere.
There's a lot of optionality between city with roommates and no space to setup a desk and middle of nowhere . Point is, it's not mutually exclusive like it is when you work in the office and thus have to reside near the office. Choosing to live in a city for reasons other than officing there is a choice. Given the choice and the preference for city life, would they choose a lower cost city where they could afford mor…
> ...when you work in the office and thus have to reside near the office.
I don't think most people pick their residence based on their work location. My company's office is in the downtown of a major metro, and yet the majority of my coworkers are located far from the city core, often 30+ minutes commute by car -- and two colleagues who commute 90 minutes each way on the extreme end.
There are much stronger factors influencing people's choice of residency, such as familiarity, proximity to friends and family, recreational opportunities, nightlife, etc.
Which, to my mind, answers your question:
> Given the choice and the preference for city life, would they choose a lower cost city where they could afford more space?
I would venture to guess that for the vast majority of people, the answer is no. Few people are willing to uproot their life for a bit more space.
Re: 38% of remote workers work from bed
#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Aeron is comfortable, but the way it reclines feels improper to me. I think their Mirra chair, with it's adjustable arm rests, gets reclining right. I like both because the mesh bottom is soft enough for my tailbone, which gets sore easily due to having broken it a long time ago. The missing feature both these Herman Miller chairs desperately need is a headrest. A 3rd-party one exists for the Aeron, but not for t…
Quantum Workpro 3000 on Amazon or at OfficeMax is a cheaper alternative. It’s roughly $300-350 and offers mesh seat and backrest.
The Workpro chairs are awesome. I've probably averaged 70 hours a week in a Workpro 9000 for 4 of the last 6 years, and it's still great.
Re: 38% of remote workers work from bed
#374I will throw in my 5 cents anecdata (I have a history of trauma/back injuries and pain). I spent about 100 euros on a kneeling chair, that had enough adjustment settings for my liking. I have been increasing my time on it steadily for the past few months, to the point that I now confortably work the whole day from it. It is a complete mind shift, I actively have to sustain my posture (and actively shift it), I don't…
Is this not horrible for your knees long term?!?
Re: 38% of remote workers work from bed
#375Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Being in the same space physically I think speeds up a lot of things. In small teams and esp. at early stage startups your whole day is a meeting where things are discussed and resolved spontaneously. Who's going to write the fine-detail code if they whole day is a meeting? It may change from case to case, but for some small teams the biggest challenge is to produce something so good that it out-competes the produc…
> Who's going to write the fine-detail code if they whole day is a meeting? Reminds me of the time I worked at an early stage startup. I used to take official vacation time, and disappear from company collaboration tools to get real work done.
Ugh, me too. These are really dark memories though.
Re: 38% of remote workers work from bed
#376Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can have that remotely. In my team we (8 people) spend our whole day on a visio conference room. We’re mainly idle but we use it to ask for help, discuss decisions informally, vent, talk about whatever(games, movies, etc.), all of that exactly the same as in the open space, but better because we can still disconnect if we need to focus. If we need a real meeting or need to talk with a specific subject, we just go…
Are you not self conscious, constantly? The massive difference between what you describe and sitting in person is body noise. A cough in an office is normal while a cough in a video chat gets everyone’s attention. I feel like it would be very draining but it sounds like you’re enjoying it?
We just mute ourselves when we’re not talking an close the camera lid if we’re not comfortable with it.
I used to be self conscious about it, but I think the company culture plays a role. We had these devices and this behavior way before COVID because our teams were already remote (5 people in a city in France, 2 in another, 2 in Tunisia…), this is the company way of keeping remote people close to one another. The whole company works like this because all the teas are distributed. I went from not caring about it to loving it, and if I switched company I would do my best to advocate for such a system.
Re: 38% of remote workers work from bed
#377Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a lot of optionality between city with roommates and no space to setup a desk and middle of nowhere . Point is, it's not mutually exclusive like it is when you work in the office and thus have to reside near the office. Choosing to live in a city for reasons other than officing there is a choice. Given the choice and the preference for city life, would they choose a lower cost city where they could afford mor…
> ...when you work in the office and thus have to reside near the office. I don't think most people pick their residence based on their work location. My company's office is in the downtown of a major metro, and yet the majority of my coworkers are located far from the city core, often 30+ minutes commute by car -- and two colleagues who commute 90 minutes each way on the extreme end. There are much stronger factors…
These likely aren’t the same people in this stat. Once you’re rooted, you’re rooted, but these people aren’t rooted. You’re also supporting the lower costs solutions exist aspect of my argument. Sure they require a commute but they exist.
Re: 38% of remote workers work from bed
#378Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve had a walking treadmill desk for over ten years. Whether it’s for you is quite personal: See if you can find somewhere to try it out for a few minutes, in particular try typing and using the mouse/trackpad while walking. My treadmill tops out at 4 mph (6.4 km/h), which is really too fast to do anything but walk. I can watch videos at 3mph, code routine easy stuff at ~2mph, code hard stuff at ~1mph, and to read h…
I tried watching videos on an iPad while walking on a treadmill and found that head movement made it annoying to watch. The obvious solution is a bigger screen further away. Did you find anything like that?
Note that my treadmill can go down to about 0.4mph (0.25 km/h) which is really slow. Anything you can run on is usually too fast.
Re: 38% of remote workers work from bed
#379Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your thinking is part of the problem. Agile is rooted on focusing on people. Make a group of good people and empower them and they will create a process that works well. Also on the cases the process fail, they will change it. But if you go and decide the process, that's more than half the way towards a failure already.
What you propose works in a small organization - which is the type of place where scrum was created and works well. In a large organization there would be too many people trying to make conflicting changes for that to work. Any individual change might be good, but they conflict and nobody can track what you are supposed to do now. That is why large organizations are so hard to change. Agile focusing on people is a go…
> In a large organization there would be too many people trying to make conflicting changes
Ideally, even in a large organization, it should still be structured down into small teams that can self-manage. You'll end up with Conway's Law taking effect, but you'll also alleviate the O(n^2) communication problem. In my experience, it works a lot smoother than 50 person teams where everyone's tripping over each other all the time.
Re: 38% of remote workers work from bed
#380How I like to imagine that 38% to be https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GHJ234zS4UE/maxresdefault.jpg
