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> Many people simply do not have the space allocated inside their homes for an office setup, and it can be too expensive to move to a bigger place. Because they're stuck in the expensive city where their employer offices. If WFH means location independence and mobility, these employees will eventually find the space they need and can afford. At the moment, they're stuck in limbo.

Many people choose to live in a city. Not everyone wants to live in the middle of nowhere.

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I've been working remote for about 10 years. I've had "real" offices. I've worked in open-plan offices. I've had a home office. I've worked from bed. There are tons of good ways to do it. Lately I swap between a kitchen table and a chair on my porch. I no longer use multiple screens, I've just gotten really fast at swapping windows on my 15" laptop; I've gotten good at figuring out how wide my terminal window breaks…

> screen real estate isn't a big factor in getting stuff done for me Lately, I've been wondering if less screen real estate actually makes me a better programmer. Being able to simultaneously have 6 files open across two large monitors with a lot of vertical real estate means that messy code doesn't hurt me as much. In fact, I'm pretty sure the only reason I do that is to facilitate dealing with messy code. I no long…

I've been using just one monitor for the last two years and never once wanted to go back to multiple monitors.

I used to have two external monitors and it was always frustrating to dock/undock and re-arrange my windows. That was why I transitioned. But I've seen no reason or negative impact on my work to drive me to return to multiple screens.

HackerNews often talks about how task switching and multi-tasking negatively affect focus. I wonder if those same people think multiple monitors contribute to either of those. On my screen I only ever have one window; it feels more intentional. On three screens I had email and teams on one, a browser on another, and my IDE on the third. Surely that's more distracting, no?

Initial Google results seem to sing the praises of multiple monitors. Am I truly unproductive on my one screen or have others seen the same benefits? How can "productivity" even be quantified?

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I've been working remote for about 10 years. I've had "real" offices. I've worked in open-plan offices. I've had a home office. I've worked from bed. There are tons of good ways to do it. Lately I swap between a kitchen table and a chair on my porch. I no longer use multiple screens, I've just gotten really fast at swapping windows on my 15" laptop; I've gotten good at figuring out how wide my terminal window breaks…

That's work from home brilliantly summarized, very true. However, I have my doubts about productivity in smaller teams and startups. Being in the same space physically I think speeds up a lot of things. In small teams and esp. at early stage startups your whole day is a meeting where things are discussed and resolved spontaneously. Sometimes it is important to have an environment where information is exchanged dynami…

the best of both worlds would be to work remotely most of the time and have (frequent?) sprints where you get to know your coworkers and also engage in this kind of high bandwidth settings.

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> Being in the same space physically I think speeds up a lot of things. In small teams and esp. at early stage startups your whole day is a meeting where things are discussed and resolved spontaneously. Who's going to write the fine-detail code if they whole day is a meeting? It may change from case to case, but for some small teams the biggest challenge is to produce something so good that it out-competes the produc…

>Who's going to write the fine-detail code if they whole day is a meeting? In a start-up ? You around midnight. Believe in the mission bro.

I’ve worked passed midnight maybe twice in my 3 years working at startups. Both times it was because I wanted to get something done not because the founder asked. Some times I wake up in the middle of the night and, with nothing else to do, start working on something but it’s only because I want my equity to be worth something (nothing or everything) as quickly as possible so I can move on: not because I have to do these things.

Re: 38% of remote workers work from bed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's work from home brilliantly summarized, very true. However, I have my doubts about productivity in smaller teams and startups. Being in the same space physically I think speeds up a lot of things. In small teams and esp. at early stage startups your whole day is a meeting where things are discussed and resolved spontaneously. Sometimes it is important to have an environment where information is exchanged dynami…

I work remote at an early stage startup, I’m not sure you’re right. It might be faster to work together but only by the amount of time it takes to type. We’re on slack talking all day and have video meeting when needed. We work fast as it is so I’m not sure we’d gain much by being in person (other than social stimulation.)

I'm in the same boat with the addition of a Mumble server. We're always a keypress away from talking to each other.

Re: 38% of remote workers work from bed

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For knowledge workers, You can either a) get up, shower, breakfast, press clothes, put fuel in the tank, drive to commuter station, wait for the cattle car, suffocate for an hour, grab a coffee on the walk to the office, sit settle down and start working Or b) Alarm rings, wake up grab a bit of breakfast coffee, plop backdown on the bedroom and start off to the races, when you catch a break shower, pay bills and make a sandwich while listening on a conference call

Re: 38% of remote workers work from bed

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> Many people simply do not have the space allocated inside their homes for an office setup, and it can be too expensive to move to a bigger place. Because they're stuck in the expensive city where their employer offices. If WFH means location independence and mobility, these employees will eventually find the space they need and can afford. At the moment, they're stuck in limbo.

Many people choose to live in a city. Not everyone wants to live in the middle of nowhere.

There's a lot of optionality between city with roommates and no space to setup a desk and middle of nowhere. Point is, it's not mutually exclusive like it is when you work in the office and thus have to reside near the office.

Choosing to live in a city for reasons other than officing there is a choice. Given the choice and the preference for city life, would they choose a lower cost city where they could afford more space?

Re: 38% of remote workers work from bed

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I've been working remote for about 10 years. I've had "real" offices. I've worked in open-plan offices. I've had a home office. I've worked from bed. There are tons of good ways to do it. Lately I swap between a kitchen table and a chair on my porch. I no longer use multiple screens, I've just gotten really fast at swapping windows on my 15" laptop; I've gotten good at figuring out how wide my terminal window breaks…

I never understand the ability to work on a laptop. For me it would be a significant blow to my productivity. How do people do it? I have 3 full monitors, one for running 10 or so processes that I can glance at stdout, then the other two monitors for having many different editor files open, numerous data plots, and multiple reference guides open, etc.

Virtual desktops and 3 finger swipes for me too. I cannot understand how having multiple apps visible helps, because you have to continuously switch your eye focus and if you have distracting apps like Slack in your field it's even worse. So laptop with 1 window maximized is the best for me. And the mobility that it allows: move to the sofa, armchair, cafe, I even deployed from a taxi. I tried to buy and use external keyboard and trackpad on my standup desk during the pandemic, but I returned the same day - the distance between the position of keys and the trackpad was so weird after years of laptop only.

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For the past 2 weeks, I've been working from a treadmill. It has been incredible. I got a small under-the-desk treadmill for my standing desk and I walk at about 2.5km/hour and get around 20,000 steps in per day. It has improved my mood, my clarity, and also has improved my sleep (because I'm tired of walking). I also find it easier to focus on tasks for some reason. If you can make a setup like this work for you, I…

Picture tech people walking on their treadmills for compensation and then picture gerbils running on wheels for food. Picture tech people drinking Soylent and then picture gerbils eating pellets. The world is whack. People are substituting artificial things for the natural things that made us happy in earlier times. Walking on a treadmill vs walking outside in the sun and shade amidst plants, trees, and other living…

Yeah. That’s what optimization is. It turns out that when I sit for work, then lift for health, then walk in nature for enjoyment I get a lot more out of each of these than when I try to get one thing to meet all these needs.

Like, this is the most normal thing that it works this way.

This naturalistic fallacy nonsense is so tiresome. “Oh wasn’t it great that we lived in nature and got eaten by bears”. No. It sucked.

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