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Google Plus: Tagging automatically shares private photos
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#82This seems 100% reasonable to me. If somebody tags me I want to see that photo - and the entire album (since context is also important). I don't want that somebody starts taging me on some photos and then sharing these photos with others without me having chance to untag myself.
I think I would only care if they tag me AND share the photos with others. If they intended not to share it with anybody, then I don't care whether they think I'm in the photo or not. A more reasonable approach would be something like "if a photo is shared, it must be shared with the people tagged in the photo". As far as getting access to the entire album, not everyone uses albums for the same reason. I can't, offha…
This. Private tagging and public tagging should be separate. I'd love to be able to tag the pictures with my kid in it, who is 2 and has no email address or, of course, Google+ account, and a few other people/animals who also don't have these things either because they don't care to or because they're animals, because I want to orginize them. I can do this on my local computer with desktop Picasa but then I have to start worrying about loosing my local data again, the whole reason I paid for the extra storage on Picasa in the damn first place.
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#83The url stopped working. If anyone can find a new one that works, reply therewith.
Re: Google Plus: Tagging automatically shares private photos
#84The url stopped working. If anyone can find a new one that works, reply therewith.
Works for me. Also cached here http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GyuhHac...
Alternate discussion here http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/07/how-google-transfor...
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#85There's more than the privacy issue. If the tagged person does not have a Google+ account, then Google+ sends an email with subject " invited you to join Google+" for every photo tagged. Spammy.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it is more of a managing expectations issue. Consider another situation: you pay me $25 via check. I can now debit your bank account for $100,000. Surprised? "Don't write checks." doesn't quite cover it, does it? P.S. Don't write checks.
That is sure going off-topic, but - seeing that I never used checks in 30 years of my life, they are very 'popular' and common over here in Israel now. Can you share your bad experiences? For me that stuff was never relevant and something I heard 'old people' talk about. I feel like someone invites me to a party and wants to play the gramophone for us..
The bad experiences stem from the fact that handing someone a check is literally handing them your bank account, and asking them to only withdraw as much as you wrote on it. There's essentially no protection except in the form of after-the-fact insurance to get you some of your money back in some situations.
Which is similar to credit cards and debit cards, really. Sure, with CCs you can do a charge-back - but that's just a form of insurance. If the person who got your money withdrew it and left, the CC company would be left paying out of pocket (hence the large interest rates).
It's ass-backwards. Since the internet appeared, banks should have been giving us ways to safeguard against this - for example, fixed-value transactions with a unique key. But we've got essentially nothing.
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#87"This move goes against Google's supposed philosophy of controlled sharing within circles."
This is exactly in keeping with google's philosophy. When the pictures are public, google can use them for advertising. Google+ was created to mine date to sell ads against. Why do you think Larry tied the bonuses this year to performance in social?
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#88The url stopped working. If anyone can find a new one that works, reply therewith.
Works for me. Also cached here http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GyuhHac... Alternate discussion here http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/07/how-google-transfor...
Sure enough, it works now. Must have been a temporary glitch. Ok, never mind.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
you're not being "forced" to. simply don't tag that person.
I think it is more of a managing expectations issue. Consider another situation: you pay me $25 via check. I can now debit your bank account for $100,000. Surprised? "Don't write checks." doesn't quite cover it, does it? P.S. Don't write checks.
Of course, the counterpoint: Flickr's been doing this for as long as they've had the ability to tag people in photos. If you've got a photo whose privacy setting wouldn't allow the person to see it, though, they do pop up a notice saying that tagging someone gives them access to it.
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#90This is the behavior I expect. I don't think I'm alone in this.
I'm with you. This is how it works on Facebook and I suspect this is how the majority of people expect it to work. Not only that, this is not only the behavior I expect but the behavior I want. I suppose it might be OK with me if someone tagged me in a photo that was private just to the person who took it. But it would be a huge, huge problem if someone could tag me in a photo and share it to some circles that didn't…
What if you tagged an embarrassing photo of me, shared it with a circle of hundreds of co-workers (that you excluded me from), and then not only do I not know the picture is out there, but co-workers can see it by visiting my profile and looking at pictures tagged of me?
Let's break this down and relate it to physical (they're both real) photos:
What if you tagged an embarrassing photo of me
Considering only viewing the page for the photo at this point: With physical photos it's possible to write someone's name on them, and online it's always possible to add a description identifying who is in a photo, so being able to tag anyone doesn't increase the information storage of the system.
shared it with a circle of hundreds of co-workers (that you excluded me from)
People can show physical photos of you to other people without you knowing. They can send or grant access to digital photos without you knowing. Being able to grant access to photos of you on a social network is just an extension of this. Granting access so that people can see the photos when viewing an album or see an album in an album list is (or could be) separate from where or how that permission to view the photo is made known.
and then not only do I not know the picture is out there We don't know that about physical photos, or photos that are sent in emails.
but co-workers can see it by visiting my profile and looking at pictures tagged of me?
Now this would be problem. There shouldn't be anything viewable on your profile by other people that you can't see yourself. Photo's should only be able to be shared and sent in private by explicitly sending a message to a group of people.
I don't think that scenario is possible with G+ at the moment. Tagging someone in a photo automatically gives that person access to the photo.
What G+ currently lacks is a way to tag someone without giving that person access to the photo. That's not perfect but it's better than the alternative which you described. Hopefully they'll find a way of making it possible to tag someone in private without putting it in front of people in ways that it's not possible in the physical world. You can't pin embarrassing photos on people without them noticing.