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1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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I’m torn badly with Amazon. After read The Everything Store, and what has been written all over the place, Jeff Bezos is a massive turd. Employees are horribly treated, wages suppressed, and all sorts of terrible and abusive practices. Then it comes time for me to buy something. I needed a new pair of size 14 sneakers. I drove to Adidas, Footlocker, dicks, and a few other stores but I just couldn’t justify $100 sneak…

Lots of options, little will power, consumer and political. Unions, monopoly legislation, tie CEO salary to a multiple of employee salary and probably 100 other smarter ideas than those.

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

#193

I’m torn badly with Amazon. After read The Everything Store, and what has been written all over the place, Jeff Bezos is a massive turd. Employees are horribly treated, wages suppressed, and all sorts of terrible and abusive practices. Then it comes time for me to buy something. I needed a new pair of size 14 sneakers. I drove to Adidas, Footlocker, dicks, and a few other stores but I just couldn’t justify $100 sneak…

> I bought then for $35. They will arrive tomorrow.

Shouldn't you wait to see what kind of cheapo $35 shoe arrives tomorrow, one you never got to try on, before you celebrate?

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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Amazon is Amazon because they didn't let size dull their edge. Unfortunately, that cuts both ways. There are a lot of ways to be exploitive, to your and your customers' benefits, when you're a $113 B revenue/quarter company, that simply aren't available when you're a startup. Hell, Walmart pioneered the "How'd you like to sell in our stores?" + "You need to reduce prices, or it'd be a shame if we, your biggest custom…

Don’t forget that Amazon still needs almost $200 billion more in revenue to beat Walmart. They have $550 billion in revenue and don’t have something like AWS. Amazon has only recently pioneered last mile logistics. It still isnt that great. I’m in a large metro area and 25-50% of my packages do not meet the prime delivery dates. I’d argue Walmart is still the king of logistics, for now.

Out of all the retailers I have experience with, the pandemic winner was Walmart (Canada) hands-down. They kept iterating their app and pickup experience (order via app and they put the groceries in your trunk) .. I am an extremely satisfied customer and have increased my spend there!

Losers for me were Home Depot and Canadian Tire. They iterated slowly and when they did, made things worse it seemed.

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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- Book stores (which were pretty awesome, actually) - Open source - Concentration of compute resources - American cinema (well, I suppose Disney has a hand in this too)

- family-owned retail businesses - distribution of ownership of the 'means of retail production' - worker rights (looking at you, gig economy and Amazon delivery drivers) - brand reliability (so much on Amazon is brand-free)

I'm not sure you can have both a wealth of family-owned retail businesses and healthy workers rights at the same time.

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

#196

It's bizarre. I'm not even american but Amazon is such a big part of my day to day life. - At work we use AWS - Amazon uses my company software - My wife is a retailer and now sells on Amazon - During work I use Twitch.TV as background noise (Amazon bought Twitch.TV) - Last week, after work I was playing the new Amazon MMO game. - After dinner I was watching The Office on Amazon Prime

I do not envy you.

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

#197

I’m torn badly with Amazon. After read The Everything Store, and what has been written all over the place, Jeff Bezos is a massive turd. Employees are horribly treated, wages suppressed, and all sorts of terrible and abusive practices. Then it comes time for me to buy something. I needed a new pair of size 14 sneakers. I drove to Adidas, Footlocker, dicks, and a few other stores but I just couldn’t justify $100 sneak…

Amazon is a poster child for antitrust litigation. They're publicly known for using their dominant position to compete with their suppliers, and drive their competitors out of business with price dumping. There is little chance you'll find alternatives to Amazon if they're allowed to destroy competition.

Regulation can only go so far, it can help build and stabilize a healthy ecosystem but it can't help with a fully consolidated business like with a decade of experience in killing competition.

There's a good case to be made that they should get the standard oil treatment.

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

#198

I’m torn badly with Amazon. After read The Everything Store, and what has been written all over the place, Jeff Bezos is a massive turd. Employees are horribly treated, wages suppressed, and all sorts of terrible and abusive practices. Then it comes time for me to buy something. I needed a new pair of size 14 sneakers. I drove to Adidas, Footlocker, dicks, and a few other stores but I just couldn’t justify $100 sneak…

I'm increasingly put out by Amazon and am trying to stop the habit of shopping there. I like books, and Amazon was founded on books, but the way they ship books now (typically loose in a soft envelope or mostly empty box) means that >50% of the books I've ordered recently have arrived damaged and had to be returned. They used to shrinkwrap books to a cardboard plate inside the box. There are other problems: 1) Search…

I have also been annoyed by damaged books and is one reason I avoid Amazon. I've had them arrive damaged from specialist online book stores as well, but not as often. The only way to avoid that is to go to the book store and inspect the product first (which I do on occasion).

They don't seem to be damaged in transit, usually it looks like they have been dropped or badly stored.

I always price check Amazon too, quite often it is not the cheapest, and you can get caught out on shipping costs as you say.

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

#199

I’m torn badly with Amazon. After read The Everything Store, and what has been written all over the place, Jeff Bezos is a massive turd. Employees are horribly treated, wages suppressed, and all sorts of terrible and abusive practices. Then it comes time for me to buy something. I needed a new pair of size 14 sneakers. I drove to Adidas, Footlocker, dicks, and a few other stores but I just couldn’t justify $100 sneak…

This is the same reason why we still have terrible economy experiences on airplanes. All of the airlines are focused on trying to maximimize revenue by forcing you to upgrade (if you want anything remotely non-terrible), and they all do it because they're all desperate to complete for the bottom.

(Well except for the MEA Carriers)

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

#200

I’m torn badly with Amazon. After read The Everything Store, and what has been written all over the place, Jeff Bezos is a massive turd. Employees are horribly treated, wages suppressed, and all sorts of terrible and abusive practices. Then it comes time for me to buy something. I needed a new pair of size 14 sneakers. I drove to Adidas, Footlocker, dicks, and a few other stores but I just couldn’t justify $100 sneak…

Half the reason I use Amazon is there web app doesn't suck. If I go to Walmart's website it will be ugly and slow and I'm not confident it will work well on my phone. Why can't Walmart get this right? I'm fine buying from Walmart and having them store my CC info like Amazon does, it's only that poor web app experience holding me back.

Maybe someone can make an Amazon competitor that is just a decent shopping app. I don't care if your store only has shoes, if I see it and think "oh, this is another one of those non-shitty-web-app stores" I'm likely to come back.

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