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Re: Google Plus: Tagging automatically shares private photos

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Post by JohnLBevan »

mlinsey wrote: post #11
jamesaguilar wrote: post #2

This is the behavior I expect. I don't think I'm alone in this.

I'm with you. This is how it works on Facebook and I suspect this is how the majority of people expect it to work. Not only that, this is not only the behavior I expect but the behavior I want. I suppose it might be OK with me if someone tagged me in a photo that was private just to the person who took it. But it would be a huge, huge problem if someone could tag me in a photo and share it to some circles that didn't…

Agreed - in fact, in the UK the Data Protection Act makes this a legal requirement (not that Google have to abide by UK law). You could change it such that users can only see the individual pics they're tagged in, and not all pics in the parent album. That may be preferable, but makes the situation more complex and means you can't see the picture you were tagged in in context. As you say, communicating how the security works is likely a better approach than changing the security model.

Re: Google Plus: Tagging automatically shares private photos

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Post by [deleted] »

sdizdar wrote: post #39

This seems 100% reasonable to me. If somebody tags me I want to see that photo - and the entire album (since context is also important). I don't want that somebody starts taging me on some photos and then sharing these photos with others without me having chance to untag myself.

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Re: Google Plus: Tagging automatically shares private photos

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Post by writetoalok »

andrewcooke wrote: post #27
yaix wrote: post #5

I read it when I opened my G+ account, and it sounded to me pretty much like Buzz all over again. Hope that gets fixed soon. Only because some guy you barely know made his way into one of your holiday photos, it doesn't mean you want to share your complete vacations with him. Probably not even that one picture, why should you be forced to?

you're not being "forced" to. simply don't tag that person.

> simply don't tag that person.

This seems like an arbitrary restriction. What if I want to tag lots of people but only share my tags or tagged photos with select circles?

Re: Google Plus: Tagging automatically shares private photos

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Post by chc »

jahmed wrote: post #29
ktsmith wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should Person A be able to see the photos they are tagged in if the photos have never been shared? If I have lots of albums on Picasa and I never share any of them but I tag everyone in them, that's pretty clearly for my benefit and not the benefit of the individuals in the photos. There's no harm to Person A by being tagged in my private album, nor is there really any benefit to Person A by having the photo auto…

Because its me. If you have a picture of me and want to link it to my profile information then I think it would be reasonable for me to know you have that picture. There is obvious benefit for me to have that picture shared with me and aware that it exists instead of it being hidden away in your private collection. Tagging is sharing. I see tagging as creating a link between the photo and my google+ profile. Maybe th…

Do you also think it would be reasonable if Google copied me on your Gmail conversations everytime you mentioned my first name or anything I've created? I don't see how they owe you anything for privately linking to your profile.

Re: Google Plus: Tagging automatically shares private photos

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Post by ryanspahn »

What's even worse that it automatically connected to Picasso which I must have used 5 or more years ago for some very private photos. When I signed up to google plus I was shocked to see these photos my ex gave me. There were under albums. I was horrified. I think connecting ur Picassa account to google plus was a bad decision. I never used it minus that one time years ago.

Fortunately I deleted them upon finding them a day later. Luckily I only had a few friends in my circle at the time.

Overall I'm not using it. I still use Facebook until everyone moves onto g plus.

Re: Google Plus: Tagging automatically shares private photos

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Post by rflrob »

sdizdar wrote: post #39

This seems 100% reasonable to me. If somebody tags me I want to see that photo - and the entire album (since context is also important). I don't want that somebody starts taging me on some photos and then sharing these photos with others without me having chance to untag myself.

I think I would only care if they tag me AND share the photos with others. If they intended not to share it with anybody, then I don't care whether they think I'm in the photo or not. A more reasonable approach would be something like "if a photo is shared, it must be shared with the people tagged in the photo".

As far as getting access to the entire album, not everyone uses albums for the same reason. I can't, offhand, think of a situation where the rest of the album would make a difference, but it's not unreasonable to expect that one might want to share only parts of an album with some people.

Re: Google Plus: Tagging automatically shares private photos

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Post by protomyth »

hammock wrote: post #37
protomyth wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You hit the big UI problem and where Google failed. The fact that I tagged a picture has nothing to do with visibility. I added a personal note to the picture to give me more information. A simple discrete event. The fact somebody decided to add a part to the use case that now shares the photo is really bad design. Folks really need to stop themselves from making user actions have much longer reach than what the user…

One could argue that if you take a photo of someone, they ought to know that you took it of them. In fact that's an argument in support of auto-tagging. You can always untasg.

I guess that's an argument, but I really cannot figure out a good reason for it. If I write on the back of a photo that I took the people on the photo, I have no obligation to send them a copy of the photo. It also creates some serious distraction for anyone with a public career. Does a singer need to be notified about every fan who takes her picture?

Let's go a bit further down this hyper-connected, automatic world. Let's say Google Plus implements facial recognition. Seems like a good idea, saves you some time. So, I upload a ton of photos and they get automatically tagged. It would be very hard to consider anything private under those circumstances. Worse, I am truly using "the cloud". Maybe some of those photos need to be deleted or edited.

At the end of it all, I wrote a note on a picture. Having additional things happen without permission is just a bad UI choice and leads to problems and apologies. And since someone decided the whole album is now shared, it could lead to some physical danger.

Re: Google Plus: Tagging automatically shares private photos

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Post by carpo »

ryanspahn wrote: post #46

What's even worse that it automatically connected to Picasso which I must have used 5 or more years ago for some very private photos. When I signed up to google plus I was shocked to see these photos my ex gave me. There were under albums. I was horrified. I think connecting ur Picassa account to google plus was a bad decision. I never used it minus that one time years ago. Fortunately I deleted them upon finding the…

When I signed up I remember they asked if I wanted to link to picassa, and all my photos where private until I actually shared them with a circle.

Re: Google Plus: Tagging automatically shares private photos

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Post by icebraining »

georgemcbay wrote: post #14

On the one hand, I can understand the point of view of the people who are upset about this and there should at least be a way to disable this behavior. On the other hand I view putting photos online (or even just having them on a computer that connects to the Internet) as basically a binary sharing of that photo with the entire world already. The Internet is like a reverse black hole that sucks in all available infor…

So, are you okay with the idea of the entire world seeing all your emails, or don't you use email?
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