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Re: Israel launches maximum pressure campaign against Ben and Jerry's

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sharken wrote: post #5
jjgreen wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"As someone who have very little faith that black countries and people ... " oh, that's horribly racist, but it's OK to say that about Arabs?

Two countries show the difference, Tunisia and Senegal. Both have a muslim majority but only Senegal is able to uphold democracy. But you are welcome to present counter-claims.

Huh?

The Republic of Turkey seems to meet the same levels of democratic dysfunction as usa, and uk. In many ways, better. In comparison, Turkey never executed women for demanding the right to vote.

Re: Israel launches maximum pressure campaign against Ben and Jerry's

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Post by denadaman »

jjgreen wrote: post #3
sharken wrote: post #2

As someone who have very little faith that Arab countries and people can co-exist with other cultures or religions, i think Israel should pursue peace. If that means giving up some or all settlements in the West Bank, then so be it. But if I had to choose between Arabs or Israelis, then I'd choose the latter every time. Sorry to say that Arab culture and religion is just not very compatible with other cultures and re…

"As someone who have very little faith that black countries and people ... " oh, that's horribly racist, but it's OK to say that about Arabs?

He would have been banned had he said this about jews, but it is OK to be racist towards muslims on HN.

Re: Israel launches maximum pressure campaign against Ben and Jerry's

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Post by sharken »

denadaman wrote: post #9
sharken wrote: post #2

As someone who have very little faith that Arab countries and people can co-exist with other cultures or religions, i think Israel should pursue peace. If that means giving up some or all settlements in the West Bank, then so be it. But if I had to choose between Arabs or Israelis, then I'd choose the latter every time. Sorry to say that Arab culture and religion is just not very compatible with other cultures and re…

I agree. Especially the Jewish arabs. No interest whatsoever in getting along with muslims. Oh wait that’s not what you mean? By Arab you meant Muslim, be honest. And if you think Israelis have always tried to get along swimmingly with all other people,go read about Moses commiting genocide in Medina, slaughtering everything but thw virgins who were enslaved and gifted as spoils of war. Yes, biblical references are r…

The right word here is specific it seems.

It's Arabs as in the people who would be a muslim majority in Palestine.

And Israelis as in Jews that are the majority in Israel.

And i know full well that Israelis have committed horrible acts in the past, but so has most countries around the world in the past.

But the real goal here is a lasting peace for Israel and Palestine, to do that Israel has to make some hard choices if they really want peace.

Re: Israel launches maximum pressure campaign against Ben and Jerry's

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Post by denadaman »

sharken wrote: post #14
denadaman wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. Especially the Jewish arabs. No interest whatsoever in getting along with muslims. Oh wait that’s not what you mean? By Arab you meant Muslim, be honest. And if you think Israelis have always tried to get along swimmingly with all other people,go read about Moses commiting genocide in Medina, slaughtering everything but thw virgins who were enslaved and gifted as spoils of war. Yes, biblical references are r…

The right word here is specific it seems. It's Arabs as in the people who would be a muslim majority in Palestine. And Israelis as in Jews that are the majority in Israel. And i know full well that Israelis have committed horrible acts in the past, but so has most countries around the world in the past. But the real goal here is a lasting peace for Israel and Palestine, to do that Israel has to make some hard choices…

Bullshit. There are tons of Jewish arabs. You just hate Muslims, just as the Israelis do.

Israeli’s dont want peace. They view non jews as lesser people. “Less special” they will delicately say.

They want meshiak times to come so they can enslave all non jews under the kingdom of david.

Jews arent exactly historically easy to get along with. Their whole victim story is:

“We moved in. We setup banks. We profitee hugely off of a local community without becoming part of it in any meaningful way. Eventually they got tired of this and chased us out. Clearly it was because of our religion and not because of our parasitic behavior.”

Religion is poison.

Re: Israel launches maximum pressure campaign against Ben and Jerry's

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Post by dang »

sharken wrote: post #2

As someone who have very little faith that Arab countries and people can co-exist with other cultures or religions, i think Israel should pursue peace. If that means giving up some or all settlements in the West Bank, then so be it. But if I had to choose between Arabs or Israelis, then I'd choose the latter every time. Sorry to say that Arab culture and religion is just not very compatible with other cultures and re…

This was egregious and entirely unacceptable.

If you post slurs like this again, we will ban you. No more of this on HN, period.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Israel launches maximum pressure campaign against Ben and Jerry's

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Post by dang »

denadaman wrote: post #13
jjgreen wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"As someone who have very little faith that black countries and people ... " oh, that's horribly racist, but it's OK to say that about Arabs?

He would have been banned had he said this about jews, but it is OK to be racist towards muslims on HN.

It's definitely not ok. We've banned accounts for that in the past, and I warned that particular commenter as soon as someone pointed out the comment to me: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27993147.

We don't come close to seeing everything on HN. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

When an account is an established user and doesn't have a history of posting slurs to HN, we don't ban them immediately; we warn them first. When an account doesn't have an established history and is showing signs of using HN primarily for flamewar, we ban it. Accordingly, I've banned yours. Please don't create accounts to break HN's guidelines with.

None of the above varies by religion or any other identity group. It's common for people with strong affiliations with one group or another to claim that the mods are against them, but we aren't. This is simply how cognitive bias works on the internet. I've posted ad nauseum about this for years, if anyone wants more:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

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