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Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S. offices

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Re: Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S. offices

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Post by mbeattie »

FreakyT wrote: post #5
standardUser wrote: post #3

To be perfectly clear, they are mandating employees be vaccinated if they want to physically go in to an office, not to do (or keep) their jobs.

Exactly -- people are still free to not get vaccinated, but they're not free to go to aggregate settings where they might infect everyone there, which seems like a reasonable compromise. It's the same approach as with antivax parents -- don't want your kids vaccinated? Then you'll need to homeschool them.

Does this apply to the flu, varicella, meningitis, etc as well?

Re: Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S. offices

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Post by bigmattystyles »

epicureanideal wrote: post #7
FreakyT wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly -- people are still free to not get vaccinated, but they're not free to go to aggregate settings where they might infect everyone there, which seems like a reasonable compromise. It's the same approach as with antivax parents -- don't want your kids vaccinated? Then you'll need to homeschool them.

But if others are already vaccinated, how does an unvaccinated coworker infect a vaccinated coworker?

Breakthrough infections and questions about transmissibility even if vaccinated aside, consider this: a second unvaccinated coworker.

Re: Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S. offices

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Post by DrBenCarson »

epicureanideal wrote: post #7
FreakyT wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly -- people are still free to not get vaccinated, but they're not free to go to aggregate settings where they might infect everyone there, which seems like a reasonable compromise. It's the same approach as with antivax parents -- don't want your kids vaccinated? Then you'll need to homeschool them.

But if others are already vaccinated, how does an unvaccinated coworker infect a vaccinated coworker?

Breakthrough case

Not to mention if you don’t enforce the policy, unvaccinated-by-choice persons (henceforth referred to as “morons incapable of basic science and empathy”) will infect one another and further increase the probability of breakthrough cases

Re: Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S. offices

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Post by bluedevil2k »

sumeno wrote: post #10
endianswap wrote: post #8

> We will have a process for those who cannot be vaccinated for medical or other reasons What might "other reasons" be?

Religious most likely

Unfortunately, this loophole will negate the entire mandate.

Re: Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S. offices

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Post by endianswap »

sumeno wrote: post #10
endianswap wrote: post #8

> We will have a process for those who cannot be vaccinated for medical or other reasons What might "other reasons" be?

Religious most likely

Hard to call something like this "mandatory" if you can just opt-out for non-verifiable personal reasons.

Re: Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S. offices

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Post by DrBenCarson »

rantwasp wrote: post #2

oh snap. I totally understand this measure and, for the record, agree with it, but I'm picturing the pushback that this will lead to.

Fuck the pushback. We cannot let the worst of mankind condemn us all to death because we don’t want to upset the worst of mankind.

Re: Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S. offices

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Post by DrBenCarson »

mbeattie wrote: post #11
FreakyT wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly -- people are still free to not get vaccinated, but they're not free to go to aggregate settings where they might infect everyone there, which seems like a reasonable compromise. It's the same approach as with antivax parents -- don't want your kids vaccinated? Then you'll need to homeschool them.

Does this apply to the flu, varicella, meningitis, etc as well?

I hope so

Re: Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S. offices

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Post by TeeMassive »

standardUser wrote: post #3

To be perfectly clear, they are mandating employees be vaccinated if they want to physically go in to an office, not to do (or keep) their jobs.

"They can still take the bus but they must sit in the back"

I'm getting downvoted but people who refuse to get vaccinated tend to be poor and minorities. And who can blame them for not wanting the government injecting a needle inside their body given the US history?

PS: I'm not antivax by any means, I got my two shots.

Re: Google and Facebook mandate vaccines for employees at U.S. offices

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Post by epicureanideal »

bigmattystyles wrote: post #12
epicureanideal wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if others are already vaccinated, how does an unvaccinated coworker infect a vaccinated coworker?

Breakthrough infections and questions about transmissibility even if vaccinated aside, consider this: a second unvaccinated coworker.

Breakthrough infections are rare, right?

And a second unvaccinated coworker is also someone that has chosen not to be vaccinated, right? (Obviously there may be some individuals who can't get the vaccine, but that should be a relatively rare circumstance, and could have policies around dealing with it.)

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