Amazon EC2-Classic Is Retiring

Post by wmf » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 10:36 PM UTC

rhacker wrote: post #25

paulddraper wrote: post #11

Hijaking this to say I hate VPC. I hate VPC. Applying 1990s NATting to next gen cloud service? Gotta give the greybeards something to do. The purpose of NATting is to deal with limited IP addresses, a problem that has been solved for a long time now. AWS makes me create a VPC, but I certainly don't set up some central-point-of-failure NAT or pay AWS to do it.

The fact that we have NATting is why you still have ipv4 addresses at all. Just look at the other thread about ipv6 that's going on in HN right now. Even if a small percent of a population doesn't have an IPv6 address means that no company can use it exclusively yet.

Post by cperciva » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 10:39 PM UTC

slownews45 wrote: post #16

ComputerGuru wrote: post #8

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You’re generally right but it’s definitely not a hard rule. Amazon/AWS has deprecated and then put to the grave multiple payment services. I made that same comment when SimpleDB was deprecated and someone said the same thing. More recently, torrent support in S3 is being killed off with little notice.

The thing has been that historically even though Amazon would "depreciate" a service they kept it running and supported. "Amazon SimpleDB (N. Virginia) Service is operating normally" is their current status page, but their marketing materials doesn't show any SDB stuff. So if you had some old workload ticking over - you could just leave it usually. I actually used SimpleDB in a light use case wildly past the point at…

Post by psanford » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 10:44 PM UTC

ComputerGuru wrote: post #7

juliansimioni wrote: post #2

As someone who first used AWS in mid-2009 (just a few weeks before VPCs were announced!), but hasn't used an EC2 Classic enabled AWS account now since around 2012, it's hard to remember just how far the service has come. There were only a few instance types, and they were all slow and small (by todays standards). Everyone's EC2 instances were mostly publicly pingable/ssh-able from the internet. EBS was horribly horri…

> This is pretty much the first time I've heard of AWS really deprecating something Amazon has deprecated and then put to the grave multiple payment services. Torrent support in S3 is being killed off with little notice.

Post by wmf » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 10:53 PM UTC

mwcampbell wrote: post #36

wmf wrote: post #31

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IPv6-only VPC with dual-stack load balancers seems like it would be a great architecture if cloud providers would dot all the i's to make it happen. https://www.internetsociety.org/resources/deploy360/2014/cas... https://toreanderson.github.io/2016/02/22/ipv6-only-data-cen...

But would such a VPC be able to make outgoing connections to IPv4-only servers?

Post by dragonwriter » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 10:57 PM UTC

juliansimioni wrote: post #2

As someone who first used AWS in mid-2009 (just a few weeks before VPCs were announced!), but hasn't used an EC2 Classic enabled AWS account now since around 2012, it's hard to remember just how far the service has come. There were only a few instance types, and they were all slow and small (by todays standards). Everyone's EC2 instances were mostly publicly pingable/ssh-able from the internet. EBS was horribly horri…