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Re: Amazon EC2-Classic Is Retiring

#11
Hijaking this to say I hate VPC. I hate VPC.

Applying 1990s NATting to next gen cloud service? Gotta give the greybeards something to do.

The purpose of NATting is to deal with limited IP addresses, a problem that has been solved for a long time now.

AWS makes me create a VPC, but I certainly don't set up some central-point-of-failure NAT or pay AWS to do it.

Re: Amazon EC2-Classic Is Retiring

#12

Holy crap - is this one of the first actual depreciation and get off service things AWS has done? Kind of crazy honestly? They were kind of famous for NOT doing this sort of thing - at all. GCP just announced enterprise API's I see with some (pretty vague) promises about longevity.

You’re generally right but it’s definitely not a hard rule. Amazon/AWS has deprecated and then put to the grave multiple payment services. I made that same comment when SimpleDB was deprecated and someone said the same thing. More recently, torrent support in S3 is being killed off with little notice.

IIRC, the S3 torrent deprecation announcement was in 2016, the recent announcement was based on API documentation cleanup

Re: Amazon EC2-Classic Is Retiring

#13

Hijaking this to say I hate VPC. I hate VPC. Applying 1990s NATting to next gen cloud service? Gotta give the greybeards something to do. The purpose of NATting is to deal with limited IP addresses, a problem that has been solved for a long time now. AWS makes me create a VPC, but I certainly don't set up some central-point-of-failure NAT or pay AWS to do it.

Are you talking about instances you want completely isolated with no public IP addresses and only RFC1918 IP's, but can reach out to the internet?

Nat Gateway has been around for ~6 years now and is highly available and a managed service so you just need to click a couple of buttons. https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2015/12/introduci...

Re: Amazon EC2-Classic Is Retiring

#14

Hijaking this to say I hate VPC. I hate VPC. Applying 1990s NATting to next gen cloud service? Gotta give the greybeards something to do. The purpose of NATting is to deal with limited IP addresses, a problem that has been solved for a long time now. AWS makes me create a VPC, but I certainly don't set up some central-point-of-failure NAT or pay AWS to do it.

Except with IPv4... it hasn't been solved because there just isn't enough addresses. And most organisations I have worked with on AWS is still predominately IPv4.

Re: Amazon EC2-Classic Is Retiring

#16

Holy crap - is this one of the first actual depreciation and get off service things AWS has done? Kind of crazy honestly? They were kind of famous for NOT doing this sort of thing - at all. GCP just announced enterprise API's I see with some (pretty vague) promises about longevity.

You’re generally right but it’s definitely not a hard rule. Amazon/AWS has deprecated and then put to the grave multiple payment services. I made that same comment when SimpleDB was deprecated and someone said the same thing. More recently, torrent support in S3 is being killed off with little notice.

The thing has been that historically even though Amazon would "depreciate" a service they kept it running and supported.

"Amazon SimpleDB (N. Virginia) Service is operating normally" is their current status page, but their marketing materials doesn't show any SDB stuff. So if you had some old workload ticking over - you could just leave it usually.

I actually used SimpleDB in a light use case wildly past the point at which it disappeared from all marketing. I kept on expecting an email like the EC2-classic one, but it never came even though simpleDB didn't show up anywhere really

Re: Amazon EC2-Classic Is Retiring

#17

Hijaking this to say I hate VPC. I hate VPC. Applying 1990s NATting to next gen cloud service? Gotta give the greybeards something to do. The purpose of NATting is to deal with limited IP addresses, a problem that has been solved for a long time now. AWS makes me create a VPC, but I certainly don't set up some central-point-of-failure NAT or pay AWS to do it.

Are you talking about instances you want completely isolated with no public IP addresses and only RFC1918 IP's, but can reach out to the internet? Nat Gateway has been around for ~6 years now and is highly available and a managed service so you just need to click a couple of buttons. https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2015/12/introduci...

This is probably dismissed by the "or pay AWS to do it" clause.

Re: Amazon EC2-Classic Is Retiring

#19

As someone who first used AWS in mid-2009 (just a few weeks before VPCs were announced!), but hasn't used an EC2 Classic enabled AWS account now since around 2012, it's hard to remember just how far the service has come. There were only a few instance types, and they were all slow and small (by todays standards). Everyone's EC2 instances were mostly publicly pingable/ssh-able from the internet. EBS was horribly horri…

> This is pretty much the first time I've heard of AWS really deprecating something Amazon has deprecated and then put to the grave multiple payment services. Torrent support in S3 is being killed off with little notice.

> Torrent support in S3 is being killed off with little notice.

Did anyone ever seriously use it? It never made much sense to me -- if you're trying to optimize for performance, S3 is already pretty good and a CDN can make that even better; if you're trying to optimize for cost, you wouldn't be using S3 in the first place.

Re: Amazon EC2-Classic Is Retiring

#20

As someone who first used AWS in mid-2009 (just a few weeks before VPCs were announced!), but hasn't used an EC2 Classic enabled AWS account now since around 2012, it's hard to remember just how far the service has come. There were only a few instance types, and they were all slow and small (by todays standards). Everyone's EC2 instances were mostly publicly pingable/ssh-able from the internet. EBS was horribly horri…

> This is pretty much the first time I've heard of AWS really deprecating something Amazon has deprecated and then put to the grave multiple payment services. Torrent support in S3 is being killed off with little notice.

As discussed on that thread, nobody used S3 torrents.
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