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Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

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Post by giarc »

xxxtentachyon wrote: post #54
giarc wrote: post #34

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I agree, I suspect that very few Googlers will be unvaxxed and that trying to identify these individuals and poach them will be tough. Not a good look if other tech companies are specifically bringing in non-vaccinated employees. Might create issues with current employees.

Yeah, and on the demand side, I have a hunch that a company that implicitly or explicitly uses their lack of a vaccine requirement as a recruiting pitch would have a hard time recruiting a large subset of engineers.

The venn diagram of unvaxxed, exceptional engineers, willing to move to a new company is probably very, very small.

Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

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freedomben wrote: post #56
giarc wrote: post #44

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There's been nearly 4 billion shots delivered across the world in the past 8 months. I suspect if they were to cause great harm, we would have known by now.

Some vaccines take years or even decades to show harm. See Air Force pilots and Anthrax vaccine history. Rare but devastating consequences. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the covid vax. I got Pfizer myself as soon as it was available. But there is still room for doubt.

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Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

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Post by dgs_sgd »

giarc wrote: post #44
hereforphone wrote: post #30

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I have taken both shots. But I wouldn't call them "safe", as they are young and approved under emergency guidelines. They are probably safe, but nobody knows that right now.

There's been nearly 4 billion shots delivered across the world in the past 8 months. I suspect if they were to cause great harm, we would have known by now.

The people resistant to taking them are concerned with potential “long term”effects so by definition argue that it wouldn’t be known by now.

Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

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Post by tome »

ericmay wrote: post #35
azangru wrote: post #29

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Are there any human vaccines in history that are based on mRNA?

1) Get the JnJ one then? 2) Do you have any evidence to suggest a risk with the mRNA delivery vehicle? If so, what is that risk and why will it materialize in some unknown amount of time instead of after someone gets the vaccine?

1) That's not really a convincing response. There were only two viral vector vaccines ever approved for human use before 2020, both for ebola I believe, and therefore probably not widely administered. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_vector_vaccine

2. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

[Full disclosure: I have had one shot of BioNTech and am waiting for my second.]

Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

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Post by sharken »

Whatarethese wrote: post #2

Good. Its time to stop messing around with this. The vaccines are tested and are safe.

The problem is not the vaccine by itself, it is that you no longer have a say in what happens with your body.

I guess switching jobs is the only cure for this unfortunate trend.

Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

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Post by endisneigh »

giarc wrote: post #44
hereforphone wrote: post #30

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I have taken both shots. But I wouldn't call them "safe", as they are young and approved under emergency guidelines. They are probably safe, but nobody knows that right now.

There's been nearly 4 billion shots delivered across the world in the past 8 months. I suspect if they were to cause great harm, we would have known by now.

lol - there are plenty of things that only cause (attributable) harm after a long time.

Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

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Post by pb7 »

endisneigh wrote: post #42
aaomidi wrote: post #27

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There are vaccines you can get that aren't mRNA based.

I'm genuinely curious if you could sue Google if you got J&J because of their mandate and you happened to be one of the extremely rare folks who got a blood clot from it.

You can sue. It's unlikely that you would win though.
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