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No-code startup Bubble raises $100M

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Re: No-code startup Bubble raises $100M

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Yeah there is also stuff like ionic, even Vue has something like that with GUI. With stuff like this is great to prototype create a MPV. Machine generated code is hard for humane to debug, at some point, it will hit a limit that becomes harder and harder to debug and make changes.

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Re: No-code startup Bubble raises $100M

#82
Credit to Bubble for raising such a large amount after years of hard work and dedication. I admire their tenacity, community and product but I don't agree with the sentiment 'make tech cofounders obsolete'. Why do you want to make a highly skilled individual obsolete? I feel, in many ways, this sentimentalism is what negatively affects the no-code / low-code industry. We need developers and non-developers to work together, not make the other redundant.

Re: No-code startup Bubble raises $100M

#83
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I am not expecting developers to welcome the new "No-code" movement. But eventually, it will happen. An app that's capable of building itself, supposed to be the next generation of building apps. Take a look at web development. It's revolutionary and changing fast. Users have more power than anytime before. More flexibility is being added every day with the rising of third parties services that make development faste…

The vast majority of software being written today is still CRUD applications centered on a database using a groupthink architecture where every noun gets a table and everything you ever want to know about that noun goes into that table. They're extremely brittle, completely un-reusable, and virtually un-maintainable. Meanwhile the front-end tech is iterating rapidly because we're at the very beginning of that sigmoid…

> Apps have been "building themselves" for decades: it's called a compiler.

To your point, can I call the cement mixer a self-made building material that resulted in an accumulation of 4000-year-old of knowledge?

Every known industry has different levels of production to reach the final product. Which may be a tool builder to automate the industry. Exactly the same way the building evolves to the prefabricated. The limitations are with the raw material which is clearly to the advantage of the software industry.

> Meanwhile, better abstractions, programming languages, type systems, mathematical advances, training programs, techniques, and architectures have been raising that water level every year for a long time

I totally agree with all of the above. But that can be done along with investing more in the essential no-code tools. And if some has decided to go further good luck.

The argument about we need to do more so please let's stop the entire direction of automating because somewhere they still using CRUD, old-fashioned and unmaintainable code is similar to let's stop space discovery because we still have problems on the planet earth. We can do both.

Re: No-code startup Bubble raises $100M

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post #82

Credit to Bubble for raising such a large amount after years of hard work and dedication. I admire their tenacity, community and product but I don't agree with the sentiment 'make tech cofounders obsolete'. Why do you want to make a highly skilled individual obsolete? I feel, in many ways, this sentimentalism is what negatively affects the no-code / low-code industry. We need developers and non-developers to work tog…

In the act of transparency, I am the cofounder of Budibase [1], an open source low code platform, and have felt the unease and confusion this type of sentiment brings to young developers.

At the same time, a tool like Bubble is incredibly empowering, and I want to to make it clear, I don't have any issues with the product, just the sentiment in the title of this article.

[1] https://github.com/Budibase/budibase

Re: No-code startup Bubble raises $100M

#85
Everything made from somebody else that you are supposed to configure in some way only works as long as you do things with it that were specifically thought of. This is true even for code, where you have a library or piece of whatever code that should do X, but you want to do X with a bit of Y, and you can't because the author didn't consider it. I don't want to be critical of Bubble specifically because I haven't tried it, but I do feel this is a very difficult task simply because it's hard to imagine all the things people might want to do. Whereas a programming language is just kind of a general purpose thing, that can do anything you want (with more work of course, and if you're able to). I see a need for this, but I'm curious how are they going to pull it off.

Re: No-code startup Bubble raises $100M

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post #24

wtf they want people who know coffeescript https://bubble.io/job?jid=4377554002

It's actually a really nice language. But yes, it was a fad that is mostly irrelevant now...

I still use it daily since I find it so much easier to write and read than having my code littered with semicolons and braces, and it enforces correct whitespace. I do see its limitations, and I wish efforts to marry Coffeescript with Typescript would be more serious.

Re: No-code startup Bubble raises $100M

#88
post #24

wtf they want people who know coffeescript https://bubble.io/job?jid=4377554002

It's actually a really nice language. But yes, it was a fad that is mostly irrelevant now...

It's really not. Coffeescript might be nice with fresh development and a small codebase but it's really bad when you're trying to figure out someone else's code.
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