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Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by read_if_gay_ »

zero_billion wrote: post #58
read_if_gay_ wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/relevant-research-and-articl... > 56 neuroscience-based studies [...] All but one provide support for the addiction model as their findings mirror the neurological findings reported in substance addiction studies. > Over 60 studies reporting findings consistent with escalation of porn use (tolerance), habituation to porn, and even withdrawal symptoms > over 40 studies linking porn use/…

i guess these are studies that indicate the harmful effects. but, the question was about whether quitting porn can make people happy. i guess that's not quantified. also, happiness is quite difficult to quantify in general.

Can it make you happy? Probably not. Can it make you more happy? Almost guaranteed.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by zero_billion »

randomhodler84 wrote: post #53
zero_billion wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly don't think there is any policing. there are groups like nofap because people who fundamentally believed that they wanted to quit porn came together and there's no force. people do this voluntarily based on their own choice.

If it was voluntary, there would be no need for a app. It’s policing and enforcement. Of some personal morality.

even with the app, only those who think our app will help them will install. it's not for everyone. we are firm believers in the free market economy and we are in no way saying that porn is bad or immoral etc. we are only assisting people who need help in quitting a problematic behavior.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by zero_billion »

kmnc wrote: post #56

How many people who struggle with porn are actually just using it as a replacement for dealing with more destructive addictions? This was the issue for me, as a problem gambler porn became a scapegoat that I had more control over then gambling. It became a scapegoat for other things as well like not taking care of myself. The thing is, it was only when I decided to stop having an unhealthy relationship with porn full…

thanks for sharing your experience. i guess it's different for different people. i have heard stories of young men who had erectile dysfunction. They could not get an erection with their partner but could an erection with porn. quitting porn has helped many such people overcome ED. before anyone asks, this relation of erectile dysfunction to porn is not yet proven. hopefully there will be more studies on the same in coming years. so, i would say for some quitting porn in itself improved their life conditions.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by joey_bob »

kmnc wrote: post #56

How many people who struggle with porn are actually just using it as a replacement for dealing with more destructive addictions? This was the issue for me, as a problem gambler porn became a scapegoat that I had more control over then gambling. It became a scapegoat for other things as well like not taking care of myself. The thing is, it was only when I decided to stop having an unhealthy relationship with porn full…

Probably a lot. On another level, do you think there is a universal ordering of addictions, or might it depend somewhat on individual proclivities? Say, might ones real addiction be porn, and they use gambling as a less harming replacement? The caveat being the maximum levels of practical harm are much larger for some addictions than others.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by throwawayswede »

Wow. You could not have chosen a worse more condescending way to introduce your useless product.

What we have here is a glorified set of blockers that could be replaced with a couple of PAC files and a pihole/nextdns. The screen time stuff is builtin to iOS and Android.

If you really think you have a problem with some addiction, TALK TO A PSYCHOLOGIST. From my experience with cognitive behavioral therapy, it's usually the problems have nothing to do with your will-power or the phone/app/game/site itself. It could even have many other side effects on your life that you can't see like anger. There's absolutely nothing that can replace personal treatment with a psychologist. People invest money in many things and I think getting help from a real qualified psychologist rather than a faceless corporation and an "app" is probably the most important investment one can do, besides getting a place to live.

Don't fall for bullshit products like this one. They're usually done by scammers capitalizing on the pains and misfortune of others.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by zero_billion »

throwawayswede wrote: post #65

Wow. You could not have chosen a worse more condescending way to introduce your useless product. What we have here is a glorified set of blockers that could be replaced with a couple of PAC files and a pihole/nextdns. The screen time stuff is builtin to iOS and Android. If you really think you have a problem with some addiction, TALK TO A PSYCHOLOGIST. From my experience with cognitive behavioral therapy, it's usuall…

i appreciate your feedback. thanks!

we do have a feature where users can talk to a coach and get their problems addressed.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by epx »

cblconfederate wrote: post #3

What are you replacing porn with? Addiction or not, porn is a symptom of urban life, the tabooization of sex (paid or not) and the death of social clubs. Is there research that shows that such "blocking" interventions make people happier?

Any habit taken mostly by men will be demonized.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by throwawayswede »

zero_billion wrote: post #31
pfortuny wrote: post #25

This is such a laudable aim. Hope you succeed. Compulsive behaviour of any kind is terribly harmful and undesired porn watching is even worse because it is humiliating (to oneself) and destroys self-esteem… Wish you the best.

Thanks for your kind words and support. the shame and guilt associated with this makes it very traumatic for some people.

> the shame and guilt associated with this makes it very traumatic for some people.

It's laughable that you think the solution to a problem like this is to share one's own vulnerabilities with a faceless private company.

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