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Re: Israeli military search team helped recover majority of Surfside victims

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Strange - Occupied it is not. Defensive removal of rocket infrastructure seems ok. Another question: do fighting nations generally supply electricity, medicine and water to entities raining missles down on their civilians indiscriminately? Great read for the uninformed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_the_State_of_Palesti...

Ironically, by your own admission, you simply highlighted Israel's infrastructure control on Gaza. So it's not merely a military occupier but controls food, water and electricity supplies to the imprisoned population. But hey, thanks for your generosity to allow a trickle of aid supplies through. "Transfers of fuel for the power plant were stopped by Israel during the Gaza War in May 2021 and resumed by the end of Ju…

They are welcome to get it from egypt with whom they share a border as well.

Re: Israeli military search team helped recover majority of Surfside victims

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Don't they do everything to avoid hitting civilians? My guess is that they do more to protect the average palestinian than meets the eye....definitely more than Hamas or Fatah Also, I'd take HRW with a grain of salt when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Even their founder has expressed concern: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Human_Rights_Watc... . Might be interesting: https://www.jpost.com/m…

Is Amnesty also biased? https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/middle-east-and-north-a...

I don't know as much about them, sorry. Quick Google search showed that there has been some claims of selection bias and "not telling the full story". My take is that they're doing a disservice to both sides.

Re: Israeli military search team helped recover majority of Surfside victims

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Yes - war is bad. Israel is always ready for peace. I can link you to a list of all the offers that have been made for peace. Additionally, you do know that there is no IDF in Gaza and that Gaza shares a border also with Egypt (strangely they keep it closed). They are free to live there peacefully and grow their prosperity. Have you seen Hamas' work in Gaza: https://news.yahoo.com/gaza-city-blast-kills-1-091252256.ht…

> Have you seen Hamas? Is the thread about Hamas? Or is it a try to change the subject?

I don't know what's going on. This was supposed to be about "the idf doing humanitarian work in florida and helping with the rescue"

seconds later the scope has become "everything israel does is wrong, look at gaza, something something apartheid"

Re: Israeli military search team helped recover majority of Surfside victims

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It would be great if IDF did the same when it comes to Gaza: https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/07/27/gaza-apparent-war-crimes...

Don't they do everything to avoid hitting civilians? My guess is that they do more to protect the average palestinian than meets the eye....definitely more than Hamas or Fatah Also, I'd take HRW with a grain of salt when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Even their founder has expressed concern: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Human_Rights_Watc... . Might be interesting: https://www.jpost.com/m…

I'm not sure you can simulataneously accuse hrw of bias (wrt isreal-palestine conflict), but also link to the jerusalem post

Re: Israeli military search team helped recover majority of Surfside victims

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This one is easy: US provides Israel with roughly $5-6B in military funding which has to be spent back with US suppliers (please add details if anyone has it) The total IDF budget in 2011 (latest I could find and has increased) is over $20b. more reading: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces#Budget - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/4/infographic-what-you... (aljazeera of all places!) I dont thi…

(aljazeera of all places!) Curious why you find that curious.

"Al Jazeera is a Qatari government-funded international Arabic news channel based in Doha"

I don't think they've ever produced anything remotely truthful about the region. ever.

That's why it's curious

Re: Israeli military search team helped recover majority of Surfside victims

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Funny the IDF don't really seem to be doing much search and rescue here - more like ethnic cleansing and apartheid: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-54823660 "The United Nations has rebuked Israel for carrying out what it said was the biggest demolition of Palestinian homes in the occupied West Bank for a decade. Some 73 people, including 41 children, were made homeless when their dwellings were knocked d…

1) offtopic 2) The Israeli military said the structures had been built illegally.

> 2) The Israeli military said the structures had been built illegally.

Well of course they did. Would any military say otherwise in the same situation?

Re: Israeli military search team helped recover majority of Surfside victims

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> Have you seen Hamas? Is the thread about Hamas? Or is it a try to change the subject?

I don't know what's going on. This was supposed to be about "the idf doing humanitarian work in florida and helping with the rescue" seconds later the scope has become "everything israel does is wrong, look at gaza, something something apartheid"

Sorry that reality is crashing your propaganda party, dude. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Israeli military search team helped recover majority of Surfside victims

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How do you feel about an entity committing war crimes and pretend to get involved in humanitarian efforts inside the US? Do think it's suspicious? Or genuine efforts, killing in one part and aiding in another. Seriously, I am curious to know. Do you think it's just about helping or more about the media campaign? And how do you consider war crimes nonsensical inflammatory thing? Well, at least it is not a "thing".

It's a marketing feel-good campaign because of Pegasus: https://www.axios.com/israel-nso-pegasus-spyware-crisis-3115...

It is hard not to notice that all the US/UK media were very afraid to put Israel's name in the titles and articles when they reported on that scandal.

Re: Israeli military search team helped recover majority of Surfside victims

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(aljazeera of all places!) Curious why you find that curious.

"Al Jazeera is a Qatari government-funded international Arabic news channel based in Doha" I don't think they've ever produced anything remotely truthful about the region. ever. That's why it's curious

When even AP wouldn't dare criticise Israel for destroying its building in Gaza, it's clear there's a need for a counter narrative to the one sided propaganda. And the one Jewish woman who dared to open her mouth was immediately fired: https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Emily-Wilder-Associa...
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