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Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Why would it matter? So they could try and change my mind?[0] That I prefer the way Windows works is sufficient reason to continue to use it instead of Linux Desktop. Why is not really relevant. [0] I've played that game a thousand times and it is always an exercise in frustration. No thanks.

> Why would it matter? So they could try and change my mind? Because you want upvotes, so you gotta give people things to agree with. If I just say "Linux Sucks" I'm not giving people much to agree with, except naked tribalism. But there are other things I can say that will allow members of my tribe to feel they're not voting tribally - and even some Linux enthusiasts to think I've got a point: * "Linux doesn't suppo…

> * "Linux doesn't support Photoshop / MS Excel / Altium / SolidWorks"

"You don't need those things anyway, Krita / LibreOffice Calc / etc are good enough. Alternatively, don't they run in Wine?"

> * "Microsoft's fanatical devotion to binary backwards-compatibility means I don't have to worry old software will break because I've got the wrong version of python installed, or my version of libreadline is too new."

"People shouldn't use old software because it is insecure. Fortunately there are armies of third party package maintainers dedicated to keeping software up to date for you and updating is easy and painless."

> * "I've got an nvidia graphics card, and nvidia drivers on Linux are a right mess"

"Don't use Nvidia then."

> * "Linux is all-too-often a second-class citizen, both hardware and software makers giving it less testing and support than they do Windows and Mac"

"That's why we have to push more for its adoption!"

Like I said, I've played this game a lot. This is exactly how it goes every damned time. No matter what you say, someone will come out of the woodwork to argue that your opinion is wrong, you chose the wrong hardware, or even, bizarrely, that normal people don't need that, like that has anything at all to do with why you need it.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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That's fall out from the 90s. People hunted for keygen.exe for their sharewares. And some rouge sites will collect many keygens, attach backdoor program with those and then distribute from their site or over bit-torrent. Anti-virus then would scan those files. Looks like modern ones simply delete any such named file without scanning.

Non-braindead antivirus software would look for the backdoor programs rather than the keygens themselves. Though as time goes on, I become less and less convinced that there's such a thing as non-braindead antivirus software.

Its not even braindead, just plain lazy.

Although I have to agree with your second sentence.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Submitter here. Can confirm. Defender uninstalled it on a random Windows box of mine today (7/26/2021). Windows 10 Pro. Version 2004 Build 19041.1110. Windows Defender updated today (7/26/2021). Hence the curiousity and submission.

Ah. That’s very frustrating. I’m not on Windows myself but I wonder if there is any workaround. E.g. does it help to add the qBittorrent application folder as an exclusion to Windows Security? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/add-an-exclusion...

I expect so. I didn't poke around it, past the initial message & a whitelisting / allow option.

The breach of user trust, to me at least, seems to be Microsoft deciding a user installed application should not be installed, and leveraging Windows to uninstall it for the user.

As noted somewhere else, there seems a big gulf between quarantining + alerting & uninstalling + deleting.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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I'm so glad I vaporized my Windows partition a few weeks ago - for completely unrelated reasons but the more time goes on the more I'm sure I made the right choice to swear them off forever.

Linux is the only real option if you care about using your computer the way you want instead of how some global corporation decides you should.

If you're in the market for a new computer, shop with someone that also cares - System 76 seems like a good start. Dell XPS or Thinkpad with Linux preinstalled would also be a solid choice.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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check if there's any trojan appended to them... or if you've used UPX to package them then they will automatically get flagged.

What’s the deal with UPX compressed executables being “dangerous”? Is there self modifying code or something?

it used to be a very common way to append trojans to existing executables. First pack them then add small payload (ones i've seen were usually ~20kb in size)

Then antiviruses took an easy way out and marked all as viruses for some reason...

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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When I mentioned in another thread this happening to other open source projects (winmerge, kdiff3) [0], I was told I was making stuff up and/or this is in 'best interest' of users and that this only happens because these are 'uncommon applications'. Its going to be amusing to read replies to this thread. Pardon the snark, but this is BS and its really sad to see this shitshow being defended. [0] https://news.ycombina…

>I was told I was making stuff up and/or this is in 'best interest' I read the comment thread. It's unclear which comment said that you were "making stuff up". There's also zero matches for "best interest" (your direct quote). >that this only happens because these are 'uncommon applications'. Relatively speaking, winmerge and kdiff3 are quite uncommon, compared to the normal stuff that people have installed on their…

> Relatively speaking, winmerge and kdiff3 are quite uncommon, compared to the normal stuff that people have installed on their computers.

I think you missed the point here. The fact that programs are uncommon isn't a legitimate excuse for Microsoft to falsely flag them as malware and then not fix it.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Did you have catchy chiptunes and graffiti ANSI art?

I anticipated this question :) No, it was just a plain Windows form, built from scratch using a then-popular Windows IDE. I think it was mostly triggered by the file name, maybe in combination with some crypto code inside.

> using a then-popular Windows IDE

If you're referring to Delphi, this has been a common issue for a long time.

Delphi seems to have been very popular with malware writers, and so AV companies keep flagging stuff from the standard libraries as malware.

Got so bad at one time that some tried to get a deal with the major AV players to provide a suite of very basic Delphi applications they could use for false-positive testing.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Sure their is: Windows is a better fit for the things I do with a computer. Edit: I know right? How dare I express a preference for Windows. Downvote me to hell because I don't like using your favored OS.

Is Windows the better fit or is it the software that runs on it that doesn't have linux support?

No and no. Windows is "the better fit" because: 1) AD. 2) corruption (it's a very long story, see Munich for one). 3) anticompetitive behavior. 4) Excel.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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I don't particularly like the way you said it, but the sentiment is most definitely shared. It seems like this attitude is incredibly common in the Linux Desktop community and it is definitely not working in their favor.

ive seen this attitude from linux fanbois too many times at this point to be polite about it.

Unfortunately I know all too well what you're saying.
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