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Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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Not just clubhouse. I get the impression that a few of the major apps are dying. FB - nobody really seems to be posting anymore. Insta - two people actively posting on my feed (I think, hard to tell under all the ads pretending to be posts). Twitter and tiktok appear to be holding their own though. Seen more "delete twitter" sentiment lately though

I've only ever seen the "delete twitter" sentiment here on HN – mostly by the crowd who gnash teeth about "cancel culture" and social justice.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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I love podcasts, I love livestreams (archived, mostly - I rarely have the time to sit and listen live), yet this whole concept doesn’t appeal to me. It seems to want to combine half of the concept of Discord (IRC with voice chat) with the atmosphere of a conference, spontaneously. Maybe given time people can find the organisational backbone to make it happen but that sounds like it would kill the spontaneity and also probably the mass appeal goal.

I remain a luddite in this regard but I still hope they make it fun and popular if it’s possible. There’s rarely much new under the sun nowadays.

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I enjoyed the Clubhouse for a week. There were very dense and valuable conversations in certain segments. However, it quickly became the case for changing the saying “marketers ruin everything” to “marketers ruin everything really really fast”

So what exactly brings this turn about? Is it the notion of content becoming an advertisement?

Lack of authenticity. Being marketed at has a distinct feeling of bad-faith cynicism. You aren’t interacting with another human, just a biological advertisement.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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This was fairly predictable. There's a good thread by Shaan Puri about how it would all go down that I found amusing: https://twitter.com/ShaanVP/status/1371972261004070913

That was a very well written Tweet thread. Thanks for posting.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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They should have remained very small, very exclusive, and you have to pay for access. There's a market for a private social media platform for "elites" with premium features based around privacy and data protection.

Just like A Small World or Decayenne both of which flamed out trying to monetize an "elite" social network ? I still get spam about renting Yachts for the summer.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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From the beginning of the Clubhouse escalation, I always thought: this is BS. I never used it and never will. It is a BS concept. People like Naval and Balajis (both of whom I admire in some aspects) kept on shouting how good it is. I think this is because of the internal handshakes these guys have within the Valley. (One of the founders of CH is Indian.) But at the end of the day, it is nothing new and the escalation, which I felt would dry up pretty quickly, did dry up pretty quickly.

Edit: I would also like to say how angry I am on heralds like Naval and Balajis. These two guys are ardent promoters and promote anything which they can see, especially Balajis. Much of what Balajis dreams about at night is never gonna happen anyway. There is few truth nuggets here and there and he stumbles upon good predictions here and there but ultimately, that guy is just news source. That guys spends time scrounging news from different sources and present it to people. Which is good actually. But people should remember not to buy everything he says and start dreaming the world's gonna look like that in a few years. That is just day-dreaming. Naval is better because he actually says what's on his mind and not just news.

This is a rant and an opinion which is different from thousands of people out there. And not even related to the post. Sorry.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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I joined CH in January, and I initially felt the same sense of excitement I felt when I first joined Twitter in early 2008 and started connecting with new, likeminded people. But that excitement died off within about two weeks, once I realised how little really interesting discussion there was. There were some highlights, and I still dip in now and again when a compelling name pops up, but it's mostly pretty uninspir…

> I heard him make the claim that Clubhouse has bigger potential than text-based social platforms, because talking has less friction than writing

That's why cellphone exists. And now several VOIP services, and meeting apps. Skype exists for years!

All of these let you talk seamlessly with a group.

Other arguments in favor of CH might be valid, but this one is weak.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> FB - nobody really seems to be posting anymore. Insta - two people actively posting on my feed Their actual engagement numbers across the general population are quite good. This sounds more representative of your bubble using different platforms than the general state of the app.

I unfortunately don’t know how the numbers break down. However, I see a lot of people that use Facebook for groups. As a result, I wonder how much of their engagement is driven from people posting inside of various groups that might be private. It might lead to the situation that OP describes where most of the “forum” conversation has died down but it’s thriving in various segments.

I haven't posted outside an FB group in 5 years.

If it were not for those groups, I would have deleted my FB account.

And I treat FB as a non-professional networking platform. You meet someone at a wedding or a funeral who you find tolerable? Add them to your FB.

Thus, with people you are not intimate enough to share your cell number or talk over the phone, and you still want to keep in touch, you add them to your FB.

That's how I see it.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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I enjoyed the Clubhouse for a week. There were very dense and valuable conversations in certain segments. However, it quickly became the case for changing the saying “marketers ruin everything” to “marketers ruin everything really really fast”

Sounds like Linkedin.

Incidentally, I left LinkedIn this year as well
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