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Also the Internet
Also group of humans in general.
The generalization we're looking for here is Sturgeon's Law.
Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about
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#52I enjoyed the Clubhouse for a week. There were very dense and valuable conversations in certain segments. However, it quickly became the case for changing the saying “marketers ruin everything” to “marketers ruin everything really really fast”
So what exactly brings this turn about? Is it the notion of content becoming an advertisement?
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#53I joined CH in January, and I initially felt the same sense of excitement I felt when I first joined Twitter in early 2008 and started connecting with new, likeminded people. But that excitement died off within about two weeks, once I realised how little really interesting discussion there was. There were some highlights, and I still dip in now and again when a compelling name pops up, but it's mostly pretty uninspir…
Maybe it’s just me, but I find the concept of hiding behind my profile picture while I speak to potentially hundreds of people in my pajamas to be not nearly as frightening as uploading a video of myself for hordes of 12-year-olds to roast in the comments. There seems to be enough everyday people comfortable enough to do that on TikTok to make it work, though.
Clubhouse’s demise seems to come from entering such a mature space without much of a marketing budget, then. Not enough extroverts know about it to keep the app interesting 24/7 and not much incentive to keep returning to talk on it as well.
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#54I have trouble understanding how Clubhouse was supposed to grow like other social media apps. It doesn't have the traditional social network growth. If I meet someone at university for example, we can add each other on Insta or Snap (these days also TikTok).
Clubhouse doesn't have that. It's closer to Twitch instead, but the difference is Twitch is primarily to broadcast the most popular entertainment media and it has video streaming, something that people want even for podcasts these days.
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#55Wasn’t the initial draw of Clubhouse almost entirely the fact that there were a few celebrities and famous people using it, so you might join a room where there were a bunch of celebrities and you may also be able to talk to them!
And Bitcoin.
That’s
Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about
#56I joined CH in January, and I initially felt the same sense of excitement I felt when I first joined Twitter in early 2008 and started connecting with new, likeminded people. But that excitement died off within about two weeks, once I realised how little really interesting discussion there was. There were some highlights, and I still dip in now and again when a compelling name pops up, but it's mostly pretty uninspir…
I signed in a few times and it was just full of get rich quick scheme scammers. It was disappointing as I was excited too, but never really had a reason to go back after that.
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#57I enjoyed the Clubhouse for a week. There were very dense and valuable conversations in certain segments. However, it quickly became the case for changing the saying “marketers ruin everything” to “marketers ruin everything really really fast”
What did "marketers" do to actually ruin everything?
Why can't people just accept the fact that it was just hyped up by some people with a lot of media exposure at the right time: namely when Robinhood VS /r/wallstreetbets was kicking in and people got access to a bit of backstage/roasting, and everyone wanted to be part of it with the whole exclusive invites deal.
People felt like they were special because they had privileged access to something for a few days. They were among "few" celebrities.
At the moment 2 of my old bosses - not tech savvy and usually out of the loop on a lot of matters - sent a message to a group chat saying they have Clubhouse invites for the people in the group, I knew it was over.
Wasn't long before the whole Clubhouse hype died off.
Somehow... it was marketers who ruined it? You simply can't have something exclusive if everyone has access to it. It's not like those celebrities are spilling secrets there, they knew what they were doing there. You were not a fly at a special dinner table listening to exclusive gossip (i'm not saying you, you, but you the user who had that motivation, which I think was the vast majority).
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#58The best thing about Clubhouse is that Twitter created Spaces, and some of my favorite voices in tech started doing shows there. I enjoy listening to Bryan Cantrill talk.
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> I heard him make the claim that Clubhouse has bigger potential than text-based social platforms, because talking has less friction than writing Finding people that talk about stuff is one thing, finding people who like to listen to other people talking is the other. Unfortunately, listening has much higher friction than reading.
>Unfortunately, listening has much higher friction than reading. Sure, for a minority of consumers like yourself. However, for most people that make up the mass audience... they do not like to read long-form text whether it is articles in Vanity Fair, The Atlantic or books. Yes, people would rather read the text of a temperature and weather forecast on their smartphone -- instead of listen to a long-winded presentati…
So how does clubhouse change the game? We already have youtube and podcasts. You can listen to Joe Rogan over bluetooth in your car. You can even ask Siri to play it. What is clubhouse doing that makes it easier to access or produce high word count content in audio form? How is clubhouse helping creators monetize their content? Why would I go to clubhouse instead of patreon for the type of content you describe?
Not a clubhouse user, genuinely curious.
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#60I have to second everything the author said about content. I joined early in CH and there were a bunch of interesting people talking about interesting things. It was like being a fly on the wall listening to people much more interesting than me have insightful conversations, especially around things like software and science and venture capital. Now everything is about wellness or the latest crypto currency fad or straight up con artists selling self actualization as the author pointed out, or strangely, people starting rooms for the purpose of begging for positions in the Biden administration. I spend a few minutes a month recently logging on and looking for something interesting. Nothing.
Also seconded about unlike Twitter I have to make an effort to use CH. I put on headphones, make sure I’m listening to get any signal at all otherwise it’s like being on the subway.
It’s hard for me to see how CH could be interesting generally to anyone except those who want to be influencers talking to other influencers or pump up their cryptocurrency.