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PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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Main Camera: Single OV6540, 5MP, 1/4″, LED Flash The official specs here https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_component_list#P.10_C... also say '6540, but no such model actually exists and the linked datasheet shows that it is actually an OV5640. Nonetheless, 5MP seems a bit low unless they got a really good deal on them, as I have an old Android from almost a decade ago(!) with an 8MP OV8825.

> 5MP seems a bit low

Librem 5 has a better camera, but it's much more expensive.

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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The pinephone is great, in fact I'm typing this comment from mine. That said, fair warning to anyone thinking about getting one: it's slow, buggy, and flat out unreliable if you need to be able to receive / answer calls and texts for anything important (e.g. work). Once they get the software worked out over the next few years though, it'll be the best thing out there. No ads, no bullshit, just a phone with a mainline…

> Once they get the software worked out over the next few years though, it'll be the best thing out there. No ads, no bullshit, just a phone with a mainline linux distribution. I'm coming to the realisation that open source projects will always provide a lower quality than comerical ones. How can we honestly expect a small team of developers to compete with the larger teams a commerical project can afford? The realit…

> open source projects will always provide a lower quality than comerical ones linux, gnu utils, almost all programming languages and their entire ecosystems, firefox, blender and many more.

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

#83

The pinephone is great, in fact I'm typing this comment from mine. That said, fair warning to anyone thinking about getting one: it's slow, buggy, and flat out unreliable if you need to be able to receive / answer calls and texts for anything important (e.g. work). Once they get the software worked out over the next few years though, it'll be the best thing out there. No ads, no bullshit, just a phone with a mainline…

You have a strange definition of "great." If any other phone exhibited those characteristics, I would write it off as garbage, not excuse its faults with a promise that they'll be fixed Real Soon Now™

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>That is not true. As far as I am concerned Linux is clearly superior OS for my laptop over commercial alternatives. I would argue Linux is only superior from the IT software perspective. This is a very narrow perspective that is only inflated if you're in IT or on an IT related site like HN. From almost every other dimension Linux is inferior and therefore from an Overall perspective it is inferior. The most importa…

LOL, so true. I often need to have online meetings with engineers that for some reason prefer Linux as their desktop OS. Guess which meeting participants _always_ delay the meetings because they can't get their audio/video working for routine meetings? If that happens to pretty tech savvy software engineers, the average user has zero chance of using Linux as a desktop effectively.

On this regard, it's often commercial software that are just bad with really poor support on Linux.

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very difficult to make most proprietary enterprise trash work with Linux. That will always be the case, no matter how superior or inferior the OS is, because unlocked hardware/OSes are bad for some business models based on lock-in/subscriptions, and that are meant to be a portion of entire ecosystems that are being sold. The only reason most of them work eventually is because Linux users are tinkerers, and usual…

An OS isn’t just an OS, it’s OS + apps. Doesn’t matter who’s fault it is. The bottom line is that productivity is affected.

It does matter. But companies should not pick software solution with garbage Linux support if some employees are using Linux. Nobody would pick a software that does not work on Windows and Macos.

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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I carry around a Pinephone with my personal SIM and use it for most personal activities. I also carry about a work phone, which I use for work, and personal activites that I can't yet do on the Pinephone (maps, chromecast, etc.) It's liberating to have plain old Linux on my phone. My phone is now introspectable, behaves like my other computers, and only runs software that does not track me. I hack on these and am exc…

Can you explain why you have to use a different phone for maps? Couldn't you use a browser? Or do you mean navigation?

And is the GPS device optional or always included for all pinephones?

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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The pinephone is great, in fact I'm typing this comment from mine. That said, fair warning to anyone thinking about getting one: it's slow, buggy, and flat out unreliable if you need to be able to receive / answer calls and texts for anything important (e.g. work). Once they get the software worked out over the next few years though, it'll be the best thing out there. No ads, no bullshit, just a phone with a mainline…

You have a strange definition of "great." If any other phone exhibited those characteristics, I would write it off as garbage, not excuse its faults with a promise that they'll be fixed Real Soon Now™

Don't forget about the price: $200 doesn't get you flagship experience.

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

#89

The pinephone is great, in fact I'm typing this comment from mine. That said, fair warning to anyone thinking about getting one: it's slow, buggy, and flat out unreliable if you need to be able to receive / answer calls and texts for anything important (e.g. work). Once they get the software worked out over the next few years though, it'll be the best thing out there. No ads, no bullshit, just a phone with a mainline…

You have a strange definition of "great." If any other phone exhibited those characteristics, I would write it off as garbage, not excuse its faults with a promise that they'll be fixed Real Soon Now™

What do you think his defintion of great is?

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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post #54

The store page mentions dead pixels; It's the first time I'm seeing a disclaimer like this on a smartphone. Is this normal? Why aren't other manufacturers mentioning this? Source: https://pine64.com/product/pinephone-beta-edition-with-conve... > A small numbers of stuck or dead pixels (1-3) can be a characteristic of LCD screens. While rare, this should not be considered a defect. If you think that a minor dissatisfa…

All webshops I've ever ordered monitors from basically had the same rules, except they're usually slightly more hidden.

I have 7 pinephones here and not a single dead pixel, only defect I've ever had was dust in a display on a pinetab prototype.

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