edit: Sorry, I missed that. Thanks.
Windows is not mandatory at all? You can literally combine whatever you want in the laptop, including the preinstalled windows or not. Look under the DIY section
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#672edit: Sorry, I missed that. Thanks.
If you go to the DIY section you can choose to not get an OS.
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#673Just one year of warranty? I should hope their hardware lasts longer than that on average. Is that actually legal to sell to EU customers? The EU minimum on new electronics is 2 years, and the Netherlands has an unlimited period so long as you could reasonably expect it (which shops then translate as 2 years, but if it dies one day after then you aren't necessarily out of options).
We'll be complying with all local requirements around warranty as we add additional countries. We'll be offering extended warranties in the future, but we're allowing for time in market for us to be able to price that appropriately.
Thanks! I read after posting the comment that you currently don't ship to the EU in the first place, so that makes sense. Great to hear you'll support the longer warranty requirement!
I'm super thrilled to see this design, it's really cool. Particularly the adapter thing, I can't believe I've never seen or thought of that solution before, it's so much better than loose dongles. Personally 13" isn't for me though, but I saw the reply to people asking for a larger version elsewhere in the thread. For now I've linked it to some friends, perhaps they're interested in the 13" version :)
All the best, I would love to get a Framework laptop in the future!
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#674This device is seriously the answer to all my laptop problems. I really like the form factor of the XPS 13, but now I'm stuck with the complete inability to upgrade RAM. In what universe is that normal? Then I accidentally nuked the USB-C ports on the left side when it got wet, and now I'm left with a single port for everything, including charging. What!? Why? I tore the entire thing apart and there's just no way to…
This reminds me of the day I dropped my new HTC One M8 into water. I grabbed it out within a second. The screen was still on and seemed functional, but rather quickly it started behaving erratically. The little motor that handles vibrate was constantly running. The device was getting hot. I couldn't power it off. The battery couldn't be removed. In fact, the entire case was sealed shut so I couldn't even expose the i…
I think Fairphone goes too far towards maintainability at the expense of other aspects. I don’t get a lot more value in being able to replace the camera in 10s compared to 20 minutes.
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#675Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would think apple products are the antithesis to the Framework laptop. How can you go from the M1 being "the default choice", and being disappointed that this wasn't a possibility? Wouldn't there have been a myriad of other choices closer to the Framework laptop, than the M1?
It's a love/hate relationship. I hate the closed nature of Apple, but it's a superior build quality. This laptop looks like it offers both.
I see. I suppose that might make sense. I would personally trust the ThinkPads to have higher build quality than a non-battle tested new brand.
But, then again, I would also consider the ability to change a faulty part as part of the build quality equation, and as such rank apple products much further down than most.
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Can you estimate an approximate ship date for Batch 2 pre-orders?
It says right on top of the DIY configure page for me: batch 2 August, batch 3 September.
Yes, I know that. I was hoping to see if he could tell at this point when they would ship with some specificity, eg. first week in August, end of August, etc.
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#677Earlier quoted context omitted.
I bet these "small vibrations" are due to some kind of coupling between the mains and the case. Dunno, not an electrical engineer. See if it still happens on battery power.
No, it's nothing electrical. It's all mechanical. It's the surface which is slightly striped or bubbly or whatever and when sliding the hand or finger lightly over it, it generates a vibrating feeling. It might be less now after some months of use. Maybe the small cracks are filled with finger fat or something :). The sharp edges are still there though.
Are you sure? I've also had this vibrating issue and for me 100% it was some sort of grounding issue with the power. Have you tried testing it when the ac adapter is disconnected? Its sort of feels like a very low amperage electrocution whenever you rest your hand on the laptop(if you know what getting electrocuted feels like)
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#678Godspeed to framework! When you have a linux version I'll buy one.
We currently have the Framework Laptop DIY Edition, which ships with no OS installed. We're in the process of writing guides for Ubuntu 21.04 (works out of the box except fingerprint) and Fedora 34 (works entirely out of the box on the latest re-spin images!).
Great! Thank you.
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What do you mean by that? Firefox and Chrome both have gpu hardware acceleration, and different threads/processes for UI and webpages.
Javascript is parsed and executed on one core.
If you have just one tab, with a simple webpage with no iframe, yes. But this use-case is handled even by a first-gen Raspberry Pi.
Once you start having several tas open, or web pages with different iframes, modern browsers put those in different processes.
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#680Submitted this yesterday, didn't get much traction though. Gizmodo's review was mixed. https://gizmodo.com/i-wanted-to-love-framework-s-modular-lap...
This review sounds overly negative. I don't have much interest in either party but it mentions the laptop got to 106f and said "too hot to touch". Well, that's only 41c. If 41c was too hot to touch, some fevers would burn your skin. Then it mentions that the fn keys area was at 96f. That's body temp. A phone taken out of a pocket will probably be around the same temp and we are not complaining it's too hot. Little de…
The temperature of your hands is cooler than your core temperature: about 33 degrees Celsius (91 degrees Fahrenheit). Obviously comfort is subjective, but I think the difference is large enough for some to feel uncomfortable. Especially when comparing against other things in a room, which tend to be much cooler compared to the body.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rob-A-B-Oostendorp/publ...