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Post by magicalhippo »

ribit wrote: post #411
Const-me wrote: post #358

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RAM energy efficiency is not important because very small fraction of the energy consumed by other components. It only somewhat matters for power consumption in sleep mode when the RAM is the only component being powered, but at least on Windows that’s solvable with a fast SSD and hibernation.

RAM energy efficiency is extremely important because it is a significant part of the baseline power consumption. Power-hungry components like CPU and GPU can be run in the lowest power state most of the time, so it really comes down to RAM and the display. If you have a 60Wh battery and want to get 15 hours battery life, you need to get your idle power consumption under 4 watts. So even 0.5 watt in baseline RAM consu…

I recall underclocking the RAM on my video card a few years ago when in desktop mode. Reduced the heat in the PC case by several degrees.

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Post by sangnoir »

xondono wrote: post #475
y7 wrote: post #387

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I think phones can be both waterproof and modular. Going by [1], waterproof gaskets usually come from either glue or silicone. Glue obviously inhibits modularity, but silicone gaskets work fine. 1: https://www.ifixit.com/News/30845/your-phone-is-never-waterp...

Yeah sure, but that will make your phone significantly bulkier

The Galaxy S5 is waterproof, has a rubber gasket over the charging port and a removable battery but not "significantly bulkier" compared to all of the current crop of mid-range/flagship phones - it's actually lighter than the glass-backed ones

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Post by okamiueru »

swalsh wrote: post #445

Super disapointed. Just a few weeeks ago I bought a macbook pro with an M1 from Apple, it's kind of the default choice at the moment. I love the concept of this laptop so much though. If it was available when I was making my choice, I would have seriously considered it as an option.

I would think apple products are the antithesis to the Framework laptop. How can you go from the M1 being "the default choice", and being disappointed that this wasn't a possibility? Wouldn't there have been a myriad of other choices closer to the Framework laptop, than the M1?

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Post by arendtio »

I really like the replaceable USB-C ports. From my smartphone I know, these things wear-off when being used multiple times per day and being able to simply replace them is much more useful than it might look like at first sight.

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Post by arendtio »

rogers18445 wrote: post #550
nrp wrote: post #4

Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

How many monitors can you plug into the laptop given the appropriate number of modules? Unlikely to be 4, but is it at least 2 or hopefully 3?

It probably depends on resolution and refresh rate, so you might want to add some details.

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Post by amichal »

ddalex wrote: post #432
littlestymaar wrote: post #366

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A chocolate tablet typically stores 4000kJ of energy. Yes that's 15 hand grenades, what are we waiting for: ban chocolate tablets now! And don't get me started on flour, not only it stores a ton of energy (50 grenades per kg) but it's also highly explosive! [1] [1]: (only with the right air to flour ratio of course, but accident happen every once in a while: https://www.grupa-wolff.com/a-tragic-flour-explosion/ )

The chocolate bar doesn't start a violent fire if pierced. If it would we could power our laptops with chocolate :) The flour conditions of exploding are far more difficult to achieve than a LiIon battery conditions - orders of magnitude difference.

True, but not that hard. I had some “dangerous experiments for kids” book back in the day and by far the most fun thing in it was aerosolizing flour with a straw to get the right mixture near your Bunsen burner for your own glorious short lived fireball.

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Post by Aachen »

Just one year of warranty? I should hope their hardware lasts longer than that on average. Is that actually legal to sell to EU customers? The EU minimum on new electronics is 2 years, and the Netherlands has an unlimited period so long as you could reasonably expect it (which shops then translate as 2 years, but if it dies one day after then you aren't necessarily out of options).

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Post by flowerlad »

The screen resolution, sadly, is only 2256x1504. This is not retina. I don't get how new laptops can be sold today with non-retina screens. The most common resolution these days is 1920x1080.

My current laptop is Samsung ATIV Book 9, which is more than 5 years old. The 13" screen is 3200x1800. The best screen ever made. Possibly the best laptop ever made. The industrial design, the backlit keyboard, touchpad, everything is perfect. Sadly even Samsung does not make laptops like this anymore.

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Post by ndiddy »

criddell wrote: post #494
nrp wrote: post #228

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Thanks! We're looking forward to seeing the modules everyone develops, and we're excited to get new mainboards out in the future.

Why AMD? What about ARM? I don't want to use an Apple laptop, but I do want a fanless design with M1-type performance and battery life. Can you do that with anything from Intel or AMD?

The bigger problem is that Qualcomm and Mediatek are so far behind Apple that nobody else makes an ARM chip with M1-type performance and battery life
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