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Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by hughrr »

davidy123 wrote: post #375
emodendroket wrote: post #360

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Supporting tons of slightly different configurations is an impediment to efficient operations though. There’s some logic to doing things that way.

I don't see why that's the case for Lenovo though (which I'm most familiar with - Thinkpads), since you have to order online. They could do batches of different configurations, it might add a small delay for particular configurations, but that would be ok. What they do now, mostly limiting larger RAM/storage configs to top end CPUs, seems like an upsell (though at least their storage is usually replaceable, and after…

Most people buy low end machines from Apple. They just keep volume handy. Although recently when I went to Apple store they had no stock at all here in the UK of anything. Literally emptied out.

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Post by neop1x »

intricatedetail wrote: post #370
victor9000 wrote: post #254

This device is seriously the answer to all my laptop problems. I really like the form factor of the XPS 13, but now I'm stuck with the complete inability to upgrade RAM. In what universe is that normal? Then I accidentally nuked the USB-C ports on the left side when it got wet, and now I'm left with a single port for everything, including charging. What!? Why? I tore the entire thing apart and there's just no way to…

Soldering is not a problem. Your average tech should be able to rework most of the things, maybe except BGA stuff. Problem is no access to spare parts.

Almost everything is BGA now, including RAM and data flash chips. Just bios flash chips are still often (not always) SOIC.

BGA soldering is possible with more expensive IR or convection-based stations and a bit of skill too.

But yes, parts are often not available at all or from unreliable sources with dubious quality.

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Post by robinsoh »

pabs3 wrote: post #128
nitsky wrote: post #114

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Are you considering OLED as well? The Dell XPS has that as an option and it is a serious draw, especially for coders who stare at a mostly-black screen all day.

I wonder if eink would be feasible.

> I wonder if eink would be feasible.

It would depend on your meaning. If you mean taking a device like a Dasung or a Onyx and connecting to the laptop and using it as another screen, then sure, that should work fine. If you mean taking out the LCD and popping in a raw eink panel, then no because they have different interfaces. Speaking of which, I don't see any clear specification on frame.work for the LCD connector or power specs.

I see they wrote on their blog.

" We don’t currently have plans for alternate displays, but we’ve designed the display to be easy to replace and the display connector on the mainboard to be able to support a broader range of possible displays. It’s unlikely we would go lower resolution in this form factor, but I agree there could be an interesting case for a display resolution that works at 2x scaling (at the tradeoff of battery life). "

But I couldn't easily find on their website the info for what type of connector and what type of power is delivered to it.

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Post by kaishiro »

sim_card_map wrote: post #377

Windows only, no option to use linux instead. Pass.

Instead of being so dismissive, you could have taken a few minutes to check the site. The DIY builds all allow you to drop Windows and roll your own OS: https://frame.work/products/laptop-diy-edition/configuration...

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Post by y7 »

Google234 wrote: post #332
raffraffraff wrote: post #293

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This reminds me of the day I dropped my new HTC One M8 into water. I grabbed it out within a second. The screen was still on and seemed functional, but rather quickly it started behaving erratically. The little motor that handles vibrate was constantly running. The device was getting hot. I couldn't power it off. The battery couldn't be removed. In fact, the entire case was sealed shut so I couldn't even expose the i…

New phones are water proof now which is something that modularity generally doesn’t allow.

I think phones can be both waterproof and modular. Going by [1], waterproof gaskets usually come from either glue or silicone. Glue obviously inhibits modularity, but silicone gaskets work fine.

1: https://www.ifixit.com/News/30845/your-phone-is-never-waterp...

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Post by gradstudent »

bmsleight_ wrote: post #279
Elvar wrote: post #269

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Why are there not a Linux version? Hate to pay for Windows, that i won't be using anyway.

Customise the order and there is an bring your own OS option.

It's a shame it's not an option for the preconfigured version. Especially as the DIY Laptop pricing has Windows 10 at ~$200.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by jagged-chisel »

bmsleight_ wrote: post #279
Elvar wrote: post #269

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Why are there not a Linux version? Hate to pay for Windows, that i won't be using anyway.

Customise the order and there is an bring your own OS option.

> You can also load your own operating system later, like a Linux distribution.

Yeah, but I’d rather not pay for that Windows license.

Edit: Oh, I see that you have to DIY the entire laptop in order to NOT select a Windows OS.

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