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Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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marilyn2 wrote: post #177

This is great! Was about to order an XPS or Thinkpad but think I'll go with this instead! How many external displays does it support? Would I need thunderbolt (would that just be a $9 adapter???)? I'd like to connect at least 3 external displays (so 4 total screens including the laptop). Is that possible? Thanks!

You can use up to four displays simultaneously, so three external displays along with the internal display would work. You can connect monitors directly using USB-C (with DisplayPort Alt Mode), DisplayPort, or HDMI Expansion Cards, or you can connect them through a dock.

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

dylan604 wrote: post #90
chipotle_coyote wrote: post #75

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So, uh, like a MacBook? (For the record I'm not bothered by the similarities; I honestly think that if you go minimalist with your design language you kind of converge on this look. I would offer the gentlest of criticisms, though, in the way the up and down arrow keys are half-height but the left and right are full. That's another trend Apple started and it is bad. Ironically, Apple's current laptops are moving away…

Actually, my 2019 Macbook has all 4 arrow keys half-height, but the left/right keys are bottom aligned with the down key rather than .keys { vertical-align: center; } I try my best to never use those keys.

That was the first one that switched back, I think. Personally, I prefer that design to the full-height left/right and half-height up/down keys, because it's just easier for me to find the right arrows that way. (I'd prefer full height on all of them, but I recognize a laptop keyboard is space-constrained, at least if it's 13" or below. The 16" MBP has less excuse.)

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

nightski wrote: post #119
chipotle_coyote wrote: post #67

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Serious question: what would you expect/want in a design refresh? I'm speaking just of the industrial design, not the number and kinds of ports and such. I'm curious because while I've also thought "yeah, these are increasingly overdue for an updated look," it's hard in practice for me to think of changes that I'd really want. I'm typing this on an M1 MacBook Air, and...I'm not saying it's somehow reached the apex of…

Honestly just start with colors and/or black like say the Razer Blade, iPhone, or iMac. I have a G14 with anime matrix led display and it's pretty slick looking (so cool how it lights up) [1]. I understand it's not as minimalist as a macbook but I've been blown away by the amount of comments I get on it's looks. It completely goes against Apple's design DNA but maybe it's just the super minimalist approach itself I a…

That's fair. I mostly like a minimalist approach, but I'd like them to find space for just a little more whimsy than they've had in the last decade -- and I'd definitely like to see the laptops in more colors than "silver gray" and "kinda darker silver gray".

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by nrp »

torgian wrote: post #162
nrp wrote: post #4

Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

This looks like a very cool laptop! What material is it made out of? Do you have information about how the pci-e lanes are routed? I’m wondering because it would be interesting to see how EGPUs perform with this laptop. Do you have plans to release different types of key caps ( such as U-shaped keys? )

The housing is made of 50% post-consumer recycled aluminum. The plastic parts are on average 30% post-consumer recycled plastic.

There's some more information about the PCI-e lanes here: https://community.frame.work/t/iommu-groups-for-thunderbolt-...

We don't currently have plans for other keycap geometries, but we do have a range of different languages in progress.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by nrp »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #163
nrp wrote: post #4

Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

What support like outside the US?

We're currently shipping to the US and Canada. We're working on adding additional countries, and making sure we can offer proper support in addition to being able to ship the product there.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by nrp »

pabs3 wrote: post #132
nrp wrote: post #32

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Apologies for the miss. There were almost 1000 comments on the last big thread! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26263508 End users have the ability to order replacement parts for every part of the laptop, down to the granularity of things like individual flex cables. We've also released reference CAD under open source licenses for the Expansion Card system for people to be able to develop their own ( https://git…

Have you sent your EC patches back to the upstream Chromium EC project?

I don't believe we have yet, but one challenge is that chromium-ec as a whole is in the process of migrating to Zephyr. We'll be needing to move over as well.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by silon42 »

nrp wrote: post #112
eikenberry wrote: post #100

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+1, please consider offering this. A track point and 3 real buttons are so much nicer than a trackpad. At least to some of us. ThinkPads success seems to indicate there are a lot of us.

A touchpad with buttons is something that we have explored, and is in theory a replacement module we can create. Inserting a track point would be much more challenging from a cost and engineering feasibility standpoint. We may have underestimated the level of interest around track point...

2 buttons + trackpoint in the middle would be a viable alternative IMO.
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