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Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

Please make full sized keys for up and down arrows, with the arrow keys in an inverted T shape. Group function keys in groups of four.

Also provide Mac style keyboard if possible with a command key. I use mac keyboard because it is safer on wrists and thumbs.

All the best.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

#162
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Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

This looks like a very cool laptop! What material is it made out of?

Do you have information about how the pci-e lanes are routed? I’m wondering because it would be interesting to see how EGPUs perform with this laptop.

Do you have plans to release different types of key caps ( such as U-shaped keys? )

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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What about extending "right to repair" to OS software and supporting open source OS like Linux or FreeBSD? Current product page only lists Microsoft Windows. I do not see an option to purchase it without, so Microsoft tax seems to be collected :(

The Framework Laptop DIY Edition ships without an OS or OS license: https://frame.work/products/laptop-diy-edition

We've been testing with Ubuntu 21.04 and Fedora 34 so far. The latest Fedora 34 respins actually have full functionality out of the box, including the fingerprint reader: https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/live-respins/

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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So this would put the Framework laptop into the same category as a Thinkpad? My old (8 years) Thinkpad has had: a new battery, a new keyboard (orange juice!), a new screen (upgrade!), new RAM, new HDD and a new charging plug. All of the above were very simple with just a couple of screws to get the back cover off. No adhesive or force needed. Even the screen simply clipped off. The manual also comes with instructions…

It actually would put us in a similar category to Thinkpads from the 2000's and early 2010's, but with modern hardware, a thin and light form factor, an upgradeable mainboard, and customizable ports with Expansion Cards!

Fair point, my newer (late 2010s) Thinkpad has soldered RAM which is a step in the wrong direction, so this is definitely an interesting product.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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We're almost all thinking it, so... are you trying to get sued by Apple, or what's the reason for 1:1 copy of the design? Edit: To be clear, I'm not just trying to dunk on the idea. That would be the reason for me not to buy one if it looks like the vendor can fold because Apple dragged them to court.

With all the other OEMs out there that have used the same exhausted design, do you really think Apple is going to go after some start up? It has chiclet keys and a black bezel sure, but nothing about this screams carbon copied MacBook anymore than contemporary ultra book. We’re pretty much in the modern equivalent of beige boxes and CRTs. Consumer computers aren’t very interesting to begin with. This one is a laptop…

Maybe Apple will go after some startup maybe not. As a customer why would I risk not having access to replacement parts because they can't be produced/sold anymore? Having a laptop that looks like Apple design is not a great trade-off here.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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1) What are the chances of a 15.6 inch version with a numpad or should I not hold my breath? 2) Are dGPUs expected in the this or an upcoming version? 3) Color options other than white? 4a) Does the keyboard use low-profile Cherry switches or something else? (Edited) 4b) Are the keys backlit? (Edited) 5) ETA on TB4 ports? 6) Is there a 99Wh battery for the laptop?

1) We can't announce anything yet, but our current 13.5" Framework Laptop will certainly not be the last product we ever build! 2) See question 1. 3) We've designed the bezel to be color customizable, and there are some photos of orange and white ones on our website. We'll be adding more colors as we go. For the chassis itself, it is anodized aluminum. We don't currently have plans for additional aluminum colors thou…

I edited the 4th question. Hopefully you see and answer 4b! Thanks for answering my other questions. I'll certainly be looking forward to your product as more information and metrics materialize.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

#170
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This is a really interesting product. Is there any hope of onboard graphics being an option in the future? How upgradable are the CPUs/motherboards?

It's unlikely we'll add discrete graphics in this form factor, but integrated graphics is actually much better than it has been in the past (e.g. Overwatch and GTA:V can run at 60fps), and there is also support for eGPUs. We've designed the mainboard to be end-user replaceable for upgrades, and we'll be developing new ones for future CPU platforms as we go.

How is the eGPU support? I had to get a 2018 Dell XPS with 4 PCIe lane Thunderbolt 3 support since the 2017 version had only 2 PCIe lanes dedicated to TB3.
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