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Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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Post by 01100011 »

sunnytimes wrote: post #312
01100011 wrote: post #139

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Sort of sounds like me a decade ago. If you find yourself still doing the same job in a decade, I think you'll know why. Tech jobs are very compatible with weed. The sort of tactical, short term thinking you need to apply current knowledge to problems works well. It's great for crafting clever, short-term solutions and hacking your way through things. If that's all you ever want to be, smoke weed everyday man, why no…

meh .. my friend and i started what is now a multi million dollar company over the past 15 years and we smoke weed everyday .. we smoke at work , just only after 5 .. no one is pushing me out into a street cause i smoke pot , quite the opposite actually.

Awesome man. I'm not trying to say you can't be successful on weed. I was, and I know many others who are. What I'm saying is it's easy to get complacent. A lot of the smokers I know obtain some level of success and then just rest in it. I'm saying you need to keep your drive and keep pushing. It doesn't even have to be success in the business world. It's success in your relationships, your mental health, and your contributions to the world. And again, I'm not saying you can't maximize those things stoned, it's just that most people I've seen don't. Is that the weed, or is the weed just a symptom? I can't say, but I can say I'm a hell of a lot better off from having quit.

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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sunnytimes wrote: post #312
01100011 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sort of sounds like me a decade ago. If you find yourself still doing the same job in a decade, I think you'll know why. Tech jobs are very compatible with weed. The sort of tactical, short term thinking you need to apply current knowledge to problems works well. It's great for crafting clever, short-term solutions and hacking your way through things. If that's all you ever want to be, smoke weed everyday man, why no…

meh .. my friend and i started what is now a multi million dollar company over the past 15 years and we smoke weed everyday .. we smoke at work , just only after 5 .. no one is pushing me out into a street cause i smoke pot , quite the opposite actually.

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Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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Post by JimTheMan »

I recall that there is a specific biochemical pathway that is distinct in people that makes them paranoid when they partake in marijuana.

Perhaps if a test for this gene was widely available, the negative effects of the drug could be greatly limited in the community.

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Post by ModernMech »

clint wrote: post #333
ModernMech wrote: post #179

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There's a line from the show "Suits" that really highlights your point I think. Essentially the show is about this wunderkind who conned his way into becoming a lawyer at a top firm. He smokes weed, and the partner at the firm wants him to quit. The partner explains "It's okay if you want to smoke weed. But that's what weed smokers do. They smoke. If you want to do other things, like work at this firm, you've gotta q…

this is a meaningless tautology

I don't think so. I think it's a recognition of the habit forming qualities of the drug, the reality that some tasks require 100% effort, and sometimes weed gets in the way of that.

Listen, I love weed. I'm going to buy some tomorrow for the weekend. But there's no denying it's habit-forming and a large number of people fall into a pattern where they devote their day to smoking weed from dawn till dusk. There are a large number of people here talking about how productive it can make them and I get that. I wrote my dissertation high. But there's a whole spectrum of behavior associated with habitual use and it can lead people to get in a rut where all they do is smoke. Visit /r/leaves sometime and read the stories there.

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Post by meowface »

pmoriarty wrote: post #352
projectazorian wrote: post #343

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The reality is that many people in legal weed states consume cannabis via edibles these days. Manufacturing techniques have greatly improved in the past couple of years and they aren't nearly as gross tasting as they used to be, often they have almost no weed taste at all. Edibles are usually highly opaque in terms of the strains used and tend to contain at least 5mg THC per dose, sometimes 10, and that's if you trus…

When consumed as high-potency edibles, cannabis has the effects of a psychedelic. We know when using a psychedelic dose, set, and setting become critical. People taking a strong dose of a psychedelic and expecting it to be no more than a regular pot high might be in for a rude awakening, especially if they treat it casually instead of with great respect, take it in inappropriate circumstances (like at parties or club…

It can, in some rare cases, have mildly or moderately psychedelic effects when smoked, too. Especially if it's high quality, has a very high THC ratio, the user has no or almost no tolerance, and a lot is smoked in a very short period of time.

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Post by meowface »

macksd wrote: post #238
wydfre wrote: post #168

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Could you go into detail about "paranoid and narcissistic personality" specifically the narcissistic personality - I have not heard of that.

Narcissism probably isn't the right word for me to be using here. It was on my mind because of this comment, where there happens to be more discussion of it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27920152 . And it happened to fit the case I was thinking of at the time. But it probably shouldn't be part of my original comment. Specifically what I'm referring to is an integral part of paranoia: someone thinking that, wh…

This is known as "delusion of reference" and is common during states of psychosis or mania: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideas_and_delusions_of_referen...

>It is "the notion that everything one perceives in the world relates to one's own destiny", usually in a negative and hostile manner.

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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Post by meowface »

mullingitover wrote: post #79

I've seen someone have a textbook psychotic break while consuming a lot of cannabis. Radio was sending them secret messages, coworkers were government spies, believed they were Jesus (and normally they'd been a confirmed atheist). As soon as the cannabis consumption stopped, the psychosis stopped. They started smoking again, symptoms came back. I'd also done some googling to try to understand why some people have pan…

Interestingly, it's sometimes recommended to quickly consume a lot of highly sugary foods if you feel panic/anxiety from cannabis. (And I've found that this has worked for me. Plus you get the bonus of them tasting especially delicious.)

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Post by meowface »

dcolkitt wrote: post #197

One potential confounding factor is the massive drop in smoking rates, particularly among those in the prime age for schizophrenia onset. The evidence seems to strongly indicate that nicotine is a powerful antipsychotic. When smoking was widespread it's possible that many schizophrenics were self-medicating in a basically effective way. The trend is probably particularly acute among cannabis users. 40 years, I'd expe…

>The evidence seems to strongly indicate that nicotine is a powerful antipsychotic.

Source? It's commonly known that there's a very high nicotine use rate among people with schizophrenia, but I haven't heard that it has antipsychotic properties. It likely temporarily helps with certain symptoms, but doesn't necessarily reduce psychosis.

I think it may generally be used as self-medication for the negative rather than the positive symptoms of schizophrenia.

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Post by meowface »

doublerabbit wrote: post #24

Anecdotal however cannabis has many compounds, The two main ones are: THC and CBD. If your using a strain that has high THC and not much in CBD. CBD being the compound to safe-guard, governor the effects of THC you end up in a trip that can spiral out of control causing negative effects. If you add a CBD strain to the mix. Which are high in CBD and contain trace amounts of THC to your normal method usage, these tend…

>-- Edit: I have my own downvote brigade. Yay - Just seems odd that every post I post on HN gets down-voted.

Respectfully, I think it may largely be because your post has many odd grammar and spelling errors, and a confusing sentence and paragraph structure. As a result, the post is difficult and awkward to read.

I don't think the downvotes have much to do with the actual content of the post. The content of everything you said is obviously 100% correct. It's just - again, with all due respect - written in an especially peculiar and very grammatically incorrect way.

Many of your posts seem to be like this, and I think that's probably mainly why you seem to get downvoted often. It's not what you're saying, but how you're saying it. (If English isn't your first language, I understand that it's unfair, but that's just how people seem to react.)

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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Post by johnnyApplePRNG »

lma21 wrote: post #231
johnnyApplePRNG wrote: post #209

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They're pretty darned small... ~0.2g a piece maybe.. And by a few I meant 1 or 2 max. And I only smoked them right before bed to help with sleep. I don't enjoy "being high" typically.

Would CBD help in this case? Have you tried it ?

I only purchase Cannabis that has a healthy CBD/THC ratio.

I don't like getting "high on THC" alone which is what most of the commercially grown cannabis has been selected for over the past few decades of prohibition.

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