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Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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Post by stronglikedan »

01100011 wrote: post #139
lrdswrk00 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Daily toker and edible eater; I’m high now. Hit the bong and a cartridge multiple times. I’ve also successfully upgraded large chunks of my employers infra code; tests green, deploys green. It’s no different than coffee to me at this point; I figured out working with those jitters and anxiety. I even saw shimmering with caffeine I’ve never seen on THC. I’m pretty sure a whole lot of the behavior is just subculture st…

Sort of sounds like me a decade ago. If you find yourself still doing the same job in a decade, I think you'll know why. Tech jobs are very compatible with weed. The sort of tactical, short term thinking you need to apply current knowledge to problems works well. It's great for crafting clever, short-term solutions and hacking your way through things. If that's all you ever want to be, smoke weed everyday man, why no…

Sounds like you fell into the "subculture stereotypes that become something like a truism" trap that the parent comment mentioned. I've worked my way up into six figures being high on THC most of the time. I've only recently cut back, but only to drop a few pounds. Weed doesn't make people lazy or complacent, but it can make lazy and complacent people lazier and more complacent sometimes.

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Post by johnnyApplePRNG »

animanoir wrote: post #164
johnnyApplePRNG wrote: post #140

I have enjoyed smoking Cannabis for decades, but a recent bought of financial difficulty coupled with a desire to get programming last week has shown some teeth on the cute little bubbly image of Cannabis in my mind. I started smoking more (due to stress) and trying to complete a new project (financial difficulty) and it was just a nightmare. It's noticeably more difficult to concentrate and retain new information wh…

In my case is different. I tend to focus and learn better with cannabis, but that might be that it relaxes me to some degree that I can take existence better and concentrate stimulating my mind. In fact I believe weed changed me for the better. May sound cliche but now I'm deeply interested in philosophy and technical concepts and aptitudes (like programming), and actually my whole attitude towards life got really br…

I have noticed that a very small dose of cannabis can help in work motivation and concentration... but for myself at least, it's a slippery slope.

After a few hours of coding well I start thinking about another very small dose of Cannabis... which won't work because you just ingested a few hours ago and you need to up the dosage... rinse and repeat.

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

asdff wrote: post #166
bjourne wrote: post #157

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According to studies, cannabis potency has indeed increasedi n Europe in the last few decades. See An overview of cannabis potency in Europe ( https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/insights/cannabis-... ) and Increasing potency and price of cannabis in Europe, 2006–16 ( https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.14525 ). From the abstract of the latter study: "Resin potency increased from a mean [95% confide…

Anecdotally, I've heard in the 60s and 70s generally people would just smoke a lot more weed in a single sitting than today. Several joints to a person of harsh brick weed vs. half of one with decent modern weed, for example.

Yes. Typically when I was young, you kept smoking until you reached the desired level of intoxication then stopped. Do people do it differently now?

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Post by hirako2000 »

seph-reed wrote: post #182
macksd wrote: post #47

>> In 1995, 2% of schizophrenia diagnoses in the country were associated with cannabis use disorder. In 2000, it increased to around 4%. Since 2010, that figure increased to 8%, the study found. Worded that way, causation isn't the first thing this suggests to me. If percentage of cases associated with marijuana rise, it could also be that a larger percentage of the population is smoking and admitting to smoking mari…

I get schizophrenia from smoking pot. But I also know people who get it who've never been pot heads. Something about THC is at the center of this. And also something about age. I used to be able to smoke as much as I wanted and just enjoy it, then one day it started making me crazy.. and I kept smoking for a few years and truly lost my mind. I've heard this story countless times... something (usually around age 20) j…

Anecdotal. Causation isn't that simple to establish. What drives people to smoke pot may very well be a factor that Will lead to paranoia or other form of mental instability.

Also to note, psycho active drugs are as they are called: psycho active. With prolonged use, tolerance increase, with further use some imbalance occurs especially when not under the influence of that substance. Re establishing that balance takes time. We are very poorly educated when it comes to mental stability, and pharmaceutical treatment is the de facto answer by medical corps.

I do hope you get better, just don't forget substance use has an impact on the brain subtle chemistry, that's in a way what makes them attractive in the first place, and this impact doesn't disappear after a day like a hangover. Take some time off stimilant and psychedelics, you will slowly regain your normal self.

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Post by KittenInABox »

seph-reed wrote: post #182
macksd wrote: post #47

>> In 1995, 2% of schizophrenia diagnoses in the country were associated with cannabis use disorder. In 2000, it increased to around 4%. Since 2010, that figure increased to 8%, the study found. Worded that way, causation isn't the first thing this suggests to me. If percentage of cases associated with marijuana rise, it could also be that a larger percentage of the population is smoking and admitting to smoking mari…

I get schizophrenia from smoking pot. But I also know people who get it who've never been pot heads. Something about THC is at the center of this. And also something about age. I used to be able to smoke as much as I wanted and just enjoy it, then one day it started making me crazy.. and I kept smoking for a few years and truly lost my mind. I've heard this story countless times... something (usually around age 20) j…

Early adulthood is often when schizophrenia disorders start manifesting FWIW.

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Post by ameixaseca »

Anything can be a trigger, including alcohol:

"Researchers have mostly studied the effects of cannabis and nicotine on people with schizophrenia. But they’ve also found that other things that alter your nervous system and mood (called psychoactive substances), like alcohol, can trigger first-time psychosis."

Source: https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/features/alcohol-schizop...

IOW, if you have predisposition to schizophrenia (family history, previous psychotic episodes), you should avoid mind-altering substances.

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

seph-reed wrote: post #182
macksd wrote: post #47

>> In 1995, 2% of schizophrenia diagnoses in the country were associated with cannabis use disorder. In 2000, it increased to around 4%. Since 2010, that figure increased to 8%, the study found. Worded that way, causation isn't the first thing this suggests to me. If percentage of cases associated with marijuana rise, it could also be that a larger percentage of the population is smoking and admitting to smoking mari…

I get schizophrenia from smoking pot. But I also know people who get it who've never been pot heads. Something about THC is at the center of this. And also something about age. I used to be able to smoke as much as I wanted and just enjoy it, then one day it started making me crazy.. and I kept smoking for a few years and truly lost my mind. I've heard this story countless times... something (usually around age 20) j…

That is about the age when schizophrenia hits, even in people who have never smoked.

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

ameixaseca wrote: post #216

Anything can be a trigger, including alcohol: "Researchers have mostly studied the effects of cannabis and nicotine on people with schizophrenia. But they’ve also found that other things that alter your nervous system and mood (called psychoactive substances), like alcohol, can trigger first-time psychosis." Source: https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/features/alcohol-schizop... IOW, if you have predisposition to sch…

That might help. Other things can trigger it, like going away to college, or a breakup with your first girl/boy friend.

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Post by bombadilo »

macksd wrote: post #47

>> In 1995, 2% of schizophrenia diagnoses in the country were associated with cannabis use disorder. In 2000, it increased to around 4%. Since 2010, that figure increased to 8%, the study found. Worded that way, causation isn't the first thing this suggests to me. If percentage of cases associated with marijuana rise, it could also be that a larger percentage of the population is smoking and admitting to smoking mari…

Sorry, but the suggestion that marijuanna use leads to narcissistic personality disorder is absurd.

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Post by oblib »

SquishyPanda23 wrote: post #191
oblib wrote: post #142

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I could certainly be accused of haughtiness when someone made a snide remark about me using marijuana. This is because I got fed up with arrogant people shitting on me when they found out I use it. In my experience it is those who love to flout their sense of superiority by shitting on users who are arrogant. But shit can flow both ways and when I'd point out that they too use "drugs" they'd get very defensive. Back…

> "It makes you dumb" was one of their favorite cut downs. Well, it does measurably decrease IQ. And at least in teens, this reduction seems like it may be permanent.

Yeah, I've heard people say that all my life. Some folks love to believe that. But there's nothing that really backs that up with solid proof. A lot of them whom I've heard say that were coke users, which to me would indicate a lack of intelligence.

Here's a couple studies that seem to disprove that myth about weed users but, like all of these studies, they really cannot claim to be conclusive. Still better than most I've seen though:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/marijuana-may-not...

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/01/twins-study-finds-no...

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