I know, this isn't scientific, but I met in my life at least 50 people who did all kind of drugs and two of them have problems with schizophrenia and both did smoke much more marijuana, than I could ever do or want. Most of the others stopped at some point to do drugs and are now more or less normal people in their society.
I know, this says nothing, but I have become careful with marijuana and don't see it as being completely harmless. This being said, I think that alcohol and tobacco are much more dangerous than marijuana.
Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
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#1221) THC to CBD ratio in Cannabis has been intentionally increased in favor of THC. 2) Cannabis is more and more cut with synthetic cannabinoids which are notoriously bad for the brain and mind. 3) Long-term Cannabis use is not evenly distributed but focused on people with a certain personality open for such an experience. 4) Cannabis has been and still is illegal in most places. That alone will foster a tendency for p…
> Cannabis is more and more cut with synthetic cannabinoids which are notoriously bad for the brain and mind. Do you have a link to support that?
that's a pretty well documented trend. Google it.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was a statement of my personal views. It is OK with me if you don't feel the same way. I do feel everyone is equal in value. Possibly equally worthless depending on how you view humanity's place in the overall universal timescale. Whenever you look at someone else and think they are being arrogant or self important...likely it is time to take a step back and think about why it is OK to think that they should not f…
That statement needs tuning then. It's doubtful you have a 529 for your neighbor's college fund or you are bankrupting yourself to pay someone else's medical bills. Did you buy a $2 coffee today ? $2 is what the average Venezuelan earns in a month. That quote is often associated with Bill Gates in the context of running a charity. In that case it has merit. But on a personal level it makes no sense, at least literall…
The discussion was about self worth.
The fact that the response to that is discussing money should be a red flag to you.
You can be good to your neighbors without giving anything but a smile and a kind word.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#124>> In 1995, 2% of schizophrenia diagnoses in the country were associated with cannabis use disorder. In 2000, it increased to around 4%. Since 2010, that figure increased to 8%, the study found. Worded that way, causation isn't the first thing this suggests to me. If percentage of cases associated with marijuana rise, it could also be that a larger percentage of the population is smoking and admitting to smoking mari…
I agree, there's just too many variables here. The drug itself also changed over the years with current breeds having way more active ingredients than the ones used decades ago.
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#125Maybe more people are borderline schizophrenic than we realize.
Cancer detection improved and people thought that meant cancer rates are up but, to my current knowledge, no one knows which is true.
I’m not going to accept this is marijuana causing schizophrenia given this. Society, their specific DNA, family life, could be, and marijuana use is merely exposing it, and enabling proper diagnosis.
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#126I can only speak from personal experience, which is of course limited. I smoked occasionally in my 20s, but not since (I'm middle-aged now). I've been friends and acquaintances with many people that smoke a lot. I see a trend among these people - not necessarily schizophrenia (I'm not a psychologist and probably wouldn't even notice a mild case) - but instead a consistent arrogance and self-importance. It's peculiar…
> they may be contributing very little to society (or maybe a lot), but regardless there's a sense of superiority
A sober individual's brain is operating on standard (often societally installed) reward mechanism, including "succeeding" on certain self-evaluated measures like "contributions to society"
It's commonly said that weed makes you "OK with being bored". i.e. standard reward mechanisms mentioned above don't really matter much when you're high.
It has nothing to do with narcissism or sense of superiority as you call it, just that their reward mechanism doesn't include things like "how much am I contributing to society". Apathy is a better word for it.
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#127Really getting sick of voluntary behavior being labeled as a "disease" or "disorder". That's the mainstream, PC way of presenting it, and while a number of doctors do support that labeling, it's by no means a universal consensus. Plenty of doctors push back against this, but most of them just avoid picking a fight you can't win against the rabid faction that wants to remove any vestige of personal responsibility. And…
Psychiatrist (and addiction psychiatrist in training) here. I agree that calling substance use disorders a disease is highly problematic. However, I think that while the majority of people who use substances don't have a problem, there are many people who use substances in a maladaptive (or disordered) way that dramatically impacts their ability to function, and we need a name to describe that. Substance use disorder is a pretty neutral term, and much better than the older "abuse" and "dependence" terminology for a number of reasons. The wording isn't intended to suggest that personal responsibility isn't required--and any treating clinician would quash that idea right away. It's a way to describe patterns and determine what might be helpful for an individual. It's certainly imperfect, but a much better description than past nomenclature.
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#128I can only speak from personal experience, which is of course limited. I smoked occasionally in my 20s, but not since (I'm middle-aged now). I've been friends and acquaintances with many people that smoke a lot. I see a trend among these people - not necessarily schizophrenia (I'm not a psychologist and probably wouldn't even notice a mild case) - but instead a consistent arrogance and self-importance. It's peculiar…
That's just society these days...
Actually I think you have a point and it probably stems from the way in which MJ modifies your dopamine system.
In any case, the reason I ultimately gave up smoking it is it makes my overall psychological health worse. I take a more cynical and negative view of things, even if it makes me mellower and temporarily happy. It affects my memory and my motivation, even as it increases my interest in things(so it slightly helps with ADHD, but effective net benefit to my job is zero). It also costs a hell of a lot of money unless you can grow it yourself these days(thanks, legal weed).
Smoked for 16 years constantly, quit for 2, resumed a couple times to help with various issues in mid life, but at the end of the day I quit because it's just not in line with my goals for my life. Weed helped me stay in bad life situations and compromised my ability to plan an effective way of changing my circumstances. It works for some people, I get it. My friend is a paraplegic and loves it for pain. I love the benefits to joint pain and general mid-life aches. That pain relief is what led me to never really dealing with my back problems until now though.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#129>> In 1995, 2% of schizophrenia diagnoses in the country were associated with cannabis use disorder. In 2000, it increased to around 4%. Since 2010, that figure increased to 8%, the study found. Worded that way, causation isn't the first thing this suggests to me. If percentage of cases associated with marijuana rise, it could also be that a larger percentage of the population is smoking and admitting to smoking mari…
> Worded that way, causation isn't the first thing this suggests to me. If percentage of cases associated with marijuana rise, it could also be that a larger percentage of the population is smoking and admitting to smoking marijuana regularly. If cases themselves rise, it could also be increases in the percentage of cases that actually get diagnosed, etc.
I think this is a good explanation. It's also important to acknowledge that norms around marijuana use and the perception of schizophrenia and its symptoms have changed drastically in the last 25 years. So have schizophrenia treatments.
Older neuroleptics have severe side effects that cause permanent Parkinson's-like movement disorders and are responsible for lowering patients' life expectancies. It wasn't until the mid-to-late 1990's that the atypical antipsychotics were approved by the FDA, which had significantly less side effects than older drugs. And then it wasn't until the mid-to-late 2000's that those drugs had affordable generics. Several new antipsychotics were approved in the 2000's that have less side effects, as well.
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#130I don't know about schizophrenia and marijuana use, but a ER Dr. friend of mine always complains about the amount of people she sees that have a condition where their body can't handle the weed they regularly smoke. The symptoms are always the same, extremely belligerent, violently sick(constant vomiting), and very nauseous. She says that sometimes its the same people as they just don't get that weed is making them r…
Hyperemesis is definitely real, and eventually affects 1/3 of heavy weed smokers. A lover of mine had to self-diagnose because their doctor wasn’t aware.
The crazy part is as that smoking weed ameliorated the symptoms in the short term, so there is a strong psychological reinforcement to keep smoking even though it is actually causing the background symptoms.