A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

Post by blfr » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 11:19 AM UTC

convery wrote: post #331

blfr wrote: post #298

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Then you have the problem of bias in human reviewers. I don't think you can solve the problem of censorship with just a few more hires.

In the past for a game-modding project we sort of opensourced reports. Users (meeting certain criteria) could visit a page and view 5 seconds of video and statistics of an alleged/detected cheater. Then select positive/negative/inconclusive. If (IIRC 5 users) had voted and the majority said positive/negative then a ban/unban would be issued. Because it was random reports and the usernames were hidden, there were no o…

Post by nemo44x » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 11:21 AM UTC

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #178

nemo44x wrote: post #38

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Because it implies the Mexican race can’t resolve disputes without violence thus normalizing xenophobia.

I think I'm more offended you referred to "the Mexican race". Mexican is not a race.

Post by nemo44x » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 11:22 AM UTC

colordrops wrote: post #42

nemo44x wrote: post #32

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No. Everything must be examined critically through the lenses of social justice. Chess is a Eurocentric and thus colonial game only valued because of its expression of whiteness. Dominance of an opponent of another color reenforces normative racism and the white pieces going first internalizes white supremacy to Black, brown, and indigenous peoples. I won’t even go into the obvious sexism and misogyny of the emotiona…

Ugh, I'm so screwed up. Your comment would be taken as dead serious in some circles and as parody in others. Based on the HN demographic I'm guessing the latter but I'm not sure.

Post by username90 » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 11:25 AM UTC

swalls wrote: post #334

schwartzworld wrote: post #326

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And then it blows up here because HN has a lot of people who are disproportionately upset about default branches being called "main" instead of "master".

The amount of slippery slope argument and strawmanning on HN when it comes to topics like this is pretty embarrassingly Daily Mail-ish.

Post by saint_abroad » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 11:27 AM UTC

hirundo wrote: post #21

We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…