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A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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Must be a slow news day. Youtube algo f-ups are just part of platform at this point.

And that makes it even more important to highlight them. We shouldn't consider censorship a normal everyday event just because some parties do it far too often.

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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> using language that upsets people is bad Shouldn't be. Intent should be the grounds for upset, intent only. Otherwise you get a Euphemism Treadmill, and that's a goddamn fucking waste of time.

> intent only Communication is a multiple party activity. It's not just a speaker and a speaker's intent. The recipient and how it's received absolutely matter (and should). I've said plenty of things I didn't intend to be stupid. Still stupid. Is it ok for the Washington football team to be the Redskins because no current fan or owner intends to be using a racist name? It's not only the hearer getting upset that mat…

Yeah, this “intent is the only thing that matters” mindset is a naive perspective on communication. People like to act as though there's some liberal bogeyman reaching for social currency by acting “woke”, when what has generally happened is someone was thoughtless/inconsiderate and an offended party spoke up (this whole experience was, of course, quite traumatizing for the thoughtless/inconsiderate person).

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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post #96

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It's clearly racist that White plays first.

White goes first because black was considered a lucky color. So if black went first it would have double advantage, from being first and from being the lucky color.

I think you just made that up.

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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post #32

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No. Everything must be examined critically through the lenses of social justice. Chess is a Eurocentric and thus colonial game only valued because of its expression of whiteness. Dominance of an opponent of another color reenforces normative racism and the white pieces going first internalizes white supremacy to Black, brown, and indigenous peoples. I won’t even go into the obvious sexism and misogyny of the emotiona…

Obviously your comment is sarcastic, but this is worth correcting: Chess is a Eurocentric Chess came from Persia, or maybe India, and spread both east and west along the silk road trade routes.

Well, it seems it was culturally appropriated by Europeans.

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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post #82

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Industrial revolutions has happened few times in the past, and every time it occurs, we change our world to adopt it. I can't help but wonder, what the world would look like if services in the future will be provided primarily by AIs. How do we adopt them? Do we have to invent a "New Speech" just to make AI understand us better so we can live a easier life? "Question: Have you consumed your food today?", "Answer: I h…

We're going to resurrect the transatlantic accent. I already have started add a hard 'ng' on 'going to' because my phone keeps abbreviating it to 'gonna'.

That would actually be cool also for non-native English speakers :)

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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post #21

We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…

Crapware.

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

#259
post #21

We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…

I figured it would be appropriate to ask an AI to come up with a label. So I prompted GPT-J with:

AI has proven to be terrible at moderating human content, we felt we needed a word for these kinds of buggy systems and have chosen: "

And GPT-J answered:

"LOLPOP"

Which seems to capture the spirit of unreliable AIs pretty well

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

#260
post #21

We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…

There is such term as 'human error'. Thus suggestions:

Machine error; Machine learning error; AI error; AI fail.

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