Well at least it wasn't for corrupting the youth.
A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
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Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ugh, I'm so screwed up. Your comment would be taken as dead serious in some circles and as parody in others. Based on the HN demographic I'm guessing the latter but I'm not sure.
I hate to do this because the parent is good at letting their dry humor speak for itself. But yes, it's parody.
What's the tell here? I've had people dead serious tell me that the US government is racist for making the lowest value coin brown and putting Lincoln on it.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#173I honestly wouldn't be surprised if someone makes the argument that this automated flagging is an indicator that chess's language is inadvertently racially charged. And think about the concept of "white goes first." All it takes is a few viral tweets, and suddenly the game of chess is in the crosshairs.
Or cooler heads prevail like at the Académie Française who recognize that sexual genders are completely unrelated to grammatical genders despite what activists try to say. So we may just get some people who push back and tell people that chess isn’t racist and it’s people who are injecting race where it doesn’t exist (such as here in chess) who are the problem.
> Or cooler heads prevail like at the Académie Française who recognize that sexual genders are completely unrelated to grammatical genders despite what activists try to say.
But that's not really true. I always learned that, for example, ils (grammar-masculine they) should be used when referring to a group of people where any of the people are sexual-gender-masculine, but elles (grammar-feminine they) should be used when referring to a group of sexual-gender-feminine people. Ils and elles have the same rules when referring to a group of inanimate objects depending on the grammar-gender of the objects.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#174We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…
Superficial Intelligence.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
This would save so much time wasting. When someone says "Can you push that to the master branch" there is nothing that ties that statement to slavery or racism so there is nothing wrong with it.
The best thing to do is to ignore these people, they will never be happy so there's no point trying to please them. If you ignore someone who is never happy then in time they may respect you, but if you always comply then they will never respect you and their perceived power over you simply increases, which means they feel empowered to ask for more and more.
But how will tech Cos show they're woke if they can't just change the names of things and say they did something important?
It's literally a bragging point at my new Co.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#176I honestly wouldn't be surprised if someone makes the argument that this automated flagging is an indicator that chess's language is inadvertently racially charged. And think about the concept of "white goes first." All it takes is a few viral tweets, and suddenly the game of chess is in the crosshairs.
In my opinion, that might be a sign that the idea of drawing abstract connections between words and concepts, that are several layers of indirection apart, may be going too far. Yeah using language that upsets people is bad, but if you allow enough layers between words and concepts, _everything_ can be argued to be offensive for one reason or another. Or will be soon once something else becomes a hot button issue.
But literally anything can upset anyone. You can never satisfy everyone at the same time.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#177We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…
Artificial Due Diligence
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#178A friend of mine was banned for sending a chat message that said “this is a Mexican standoff” — the people in the room were both Mexican, if it matters.. we were all confused on why he was permanently banned.
Because it implies the Mexican race can’t resolve disputes without violence thus normalizing xenophobia.
I think I'm more offended you referred to "the Mexican race". Mexican is not a race.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have cooler heads prevailed in this regard? “Progressive” Americans degendering Spanish by referring to Latino people as “Latinx” seems to be going as strong as ever, despite the protests of actual native Spanish speakers. In their haste to appear progressive, people who say “Latinx” are ironically engaging in linguistic colonialism, as it were.
That’s a perfect example of something that literally every single time I’ve seen it mentioned was in the context of people expressing outrage at other people’s activism, and never in the context of an activist actually advocating for it.
Do you mean that it's an imagined problem or that it's an example of a truly terrible idea?
Because I see people using it all the time on TV. It's not an imagined problem.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
> using language that upsets people is bad Shouldn't be. Intent should be the grounds for upset, intent only. Otherwise you get a Euphemism Treadmill, and that's a goddamn fucking waste of time.
Text is text, and you can't encode intent without assuming that the reader has a similar level of internet experience to be able to pull such hidden intent using context clues.
It's sad we have to go so far down rabbit holes before asking basic questions fundamental to the alleged 'solutions'.