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U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cyberattacks

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Actually, the US worked to fabricate evidence in collaboration with the UK too. The UK had an expert produce the so called "dodgy dossier", that was used as Blair's justification to follow the US into their illegal war. The media called it out as obvious bullshit, then the guy that produced the report allegedly committed a timely suicide.

But the EU didn't join the war.

Thanks to France.

Re: U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cyberattacks

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There is so much doubt in this comment section around the validity of the accusations. We have a number of countries putting forward the knowledge they have mutually agreed upon. What is shared is known to a high degree of certainty. Any details that are questionable would not have been shared prematurely.

Not to say I don’t believe that China is actively attacking networks and services (if they don’t then they’re lagging behind and it’s embarassing), but I can understand the skepticism of grand claims when the latest was that tiktok was impacting national security.

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China goes down, so does aapl and tsla and our entire economy. Until the American voter is more powerful that the collected business interests of those mega-corps, China will be our most favored trade partner, even as they commit war crimes against the American people (in theory :)

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All the reports about the "genocide" come from one person, Adrian Zenz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Zenz). It's about as credible as reports of Saddam's soldiers ripping babies from incubators. Zenz works for the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation and enjoys nothing more than inventing new "victims" to add to the list.

It's pretty funny the lengths to which he and the western media that runs with whatever he says are willing to invent things out of whole cloth to support this. Uighurs openly celebrating Eid was used as evidence of attrocities since this couldn't possibly be their own free will, and it was done as propaganda by Beijing!

Re: U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cyberattacks

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post #132

There is so much doubt in this comment section around the validity of the accusations. We have a number of countries putting forward the knowledge they have mutually agreed upon. What is shared is known to a high degree of certainty. Any details that are questionable would not have been shared prematurely.

Not to say I don’t believe that China is actively attacking networks and services (if they don’t then they’re lagging behind and it’s embarassing), but I can understand the skepticism of grand claims when the latest was that tiktok was impacting national security.

If you don’t believe Tiktok is a national security threat you are hopelessly naive.

MyFitnessPal, Strava, etc are threats to national security and they’re US based, but you think that Tiktok isn’t because someone you don’t like said it is? That’s playground logic.

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post #97

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Oh please. If the U.S. was so concerned about human rights violations they would stop funding Israel. Sorry dang.

The US has too many internal problem to be the world savior. Every time the US looks outside its border, it's for its sole selfish interests. Human rights enforcement around the world is (unfortunately) not something we can reasonaly expect from US. Also the U in US is extremely optimistic. Different states would act completely differently if allowed to. The world need to look for a different hero: any proposal? (For…

Democracy, human rights, and self-determination as a concept should be the hero.

Re: U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cyberattacks

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Would this be the first full scale assault by Chinese hackers in the supply chain that we know of? If so, it is notable that they are aggressively acting in that way (and breached).

To my knowledge this is the first attack of this sort (shadily) attributed to China, but they have been implicated in much more important attacks, such as OPM breach ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management... ).

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post #92

There is so much doubt in this comment section around the validity of the accusations. We have a number of countries putting forward the knowledge they have mutually agreed upon. What is shared is known to a high degree of certainty. Any details that are questionable would not have been shared prematurely.

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." — Dick Cheney, before the US and coalition of the willing invaded Iraq.

I'd ask that we be more thoughtful on this and evaluate separate allegations on their own merits. Why do you think invoking Cheney's statement is relevant to this discussion?

As an aside, I'm not sure what's more frustrating:

Witnessing the Bush administration circa 2001-2004 be called out on these lies, by numerous entities, and still march inexorably toward armed conflict, or...

having to witness these lies being used to disingenuously discredit any future allegations made by the US.

Re: U.S. and key allies accuse China of Microsoft Exchange cyberattacks

#139

There is so much doubt in this comment section around the validity of the accusations. We have a number of countries putting forward the knowledge they have mutually agreed upon. What is shared is known to a high degree of certainty. Any details that are questionable would not have been shared prematurely.

I'm surprised given how much of it is already in plain sight. Sit down with any security engineer and you're going to hear a bunch of stories about strange network activity they've observed over the years. And this is just the stuff that's been detected.

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post #66

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You're being deliberately obtuse about this. The simplest explanation for cyberattacks against high-profile targets coming out of countries like China (or the US, for that matter) isn't "rando script-kiddies having a laugh ha ha!". It's that their government intelligence forces did it. This kind of attempted misdirection is really common from people defending/spreading propaganda for the Chinese government. It's also…

Why is it deliberately obtuse to think that some of China's billion people could be independent black hat hackers? Are they incapable of being evil or greedy?

They're not incapable of either. Are they as motivated as the government? In general, no. Genocidal dictatorships are more motivated than random script kiddies and "evil" black hat hackers to go after high profile government and government-adjacent (infrastructure) targets.
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