Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago • Hacker News Board

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by 8note » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 6:47 AM UTC

pmoriarty wrote: post #39

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #29

Ironic that the penalty for cannabis possession goes up to death now in the place where it was first domesticated. Death for having a plant that makes people feel good and happy. Humans are weird. This study is really neat because as the article says the consensus was always Central Asia for the birthplace of cannabis and now we learn that it is East Asia.

"Death for having a plant that makes people feel good and happy. Humans are weird." It's not just about feeling good (though that can be threat enough for some authorities -- dancing bans[1], for example).. Cannabis can have psychedelic effects at high doses, and has been used for religious and sacramental purposes (there has been speculation that cannabis was part of the anointing oil used in the bible, and perhaps…

In the US it was that cannabis users were likely to not vote for Nixon in the next election.

If they can't vote, they can't kick Nixon out of power

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by hypertele-Xii » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 7:04 AM UTC

8note wrote: post #71

pmoriarty wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Death for having a plant that makes people feel good and happy. Humans are weird." It's not just about feeling good (though that can be threat enough for some authorities -- dancing bans[1], for example).. Cannabis can have psychedelic effects at high doses, and has been used for religious and sacramental purposes (there has been speculation that cannabis was part of the anointing oil used in the bible, and perhaps…

In the US it was that cannabis users were likely to not vote for Nixon in the next election. If they can't vote, they can't kick Nixon out of power

It's inconcievable to me to think that enprisonment in the US forfeits one's right to vote. Such a twisted flavor of democracy. "Everyone is equal except those who have made a mistake."

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by hypertele-Xii » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 7:21 AM UTC

deregulateMed wrote: post #4

Since this is the first cannabis topic I've seen on HN, I have lots of questions/ideas/problems I want to share. I'm going to post them in no particular order. Maybe someone has a solution >I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious. >Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug…

> Any solution to the tolerance problem?

Cycle between different drugs. When you develop tolerance for one, switch to another.

> Is there a way to microdose? I'd like to be able to have tiny, controlled amounts every time.

Get a small vaporizer with degree-exact temperature control. Varying the temp even by 5 degrees between 175..230 degrees celsius produces very different types of high. Lower temperatures vaporize more CBD and less THC, leading to more body glow, while higher temps do the opposite and go to your head. Also, you don't have to inhale smoke and the dose is easier to control.

> Is there a solution to munchies?

...Eat more?

> Are my memory problems due to weed or is this just age? (When not using) I feel like I've lost lots of childhood memories and I have more difficulty than ever with names.

Weed unlocked childhood memories I didn't remember having. But it also makes me draw blank, i.e. completely forget the train of thought or conversation. I think it's a strength/power, allowing you to discard useless memories.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by vimacs2 » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 11:35 AM UTC

robbedpeter wrote: post #3

This coincides with the Dryas impact era - there seems to be a lot of cultural advances, settlements, and other artifacts that pop up around that time. It seems very plausible to me that many of the discoveries aren't the first of their kind, but the first reimplementation after humans began to rebuild. The Dryas impact is a fascinating event - if validated, it has the potential to shake up a lot of the currently acc…

While I actually do believe in the Dryas impact hypothesis myself, there is definitely quite a bit of stigma surrounding the idea, especially since controversal figures like Graham Hancock have embraced it.

While I think a lot of his ideas are pretty out there, I do agree with him that I would need substantially more evidence than there actually is for concluding that civilisation really is only 6000-10000 years old. Modern humans have been around for more than 10 times that length and our actual fossil records are incredibly spotty.