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Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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Housing is the crux of this problem and is an issue so intractable, I genuinely don't see a solution. The way the housing market across much of the western world is the way that now is, is because rich people made it that way, and they have all the influence, power and control now, so nothing us small folk can do will likely change things in any meaningful way.

Housing has become a commodity, an investment, and so the rich, with their sloshing, frothing waves of cash, are buying it up at an ever accelerating pace. Not buying it up so they can live in these homes mind you, but buying it up so they can extract rent, extract PROFIT from homes that are meant for people and families to live in. So now, rather than serving as a place for people to live, housing is serving as investment for the rich to get ever richer from.

The real problem is that when it comes to housing, the marginal buyer is now some hyper-leveraged corporation with near limitless access to cheap capital, or some billionaire investor, who'll happily bid 50% over asking as they're planning on renting the house out for the maximum amount possible and bundling their "Assets" into a REIT, and so they'll gladly pay over asking as its just a cost of doing business.

So now you've got the rich through their companies and trusts buying up entire neighborhoods, out-bidding regular folks for homes, raising rents to increase profits, and turning homes that people could once have lived in, into vacation properties and short-term rentals or worst of all letting them sit empty just so they can sell them when the value goes up.

Increasing wages is one absolutely necessary step towards fixing the economy, but real wages would have to rise 100%, 500%, a even f*king 1000% in a lot of places for regular folks to actually be able to afford the kinds of homes that a family could once have afforded on a single middle class income.

So literally the only thing that can fix things is to make housing worth a lot less. But that will never happen because that would cause some already fantastically wealthy people to be a little less wealthy, and the rich would rather people die and go homeless than ever be less rich.

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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I sold my soul to the company store. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip There was good reason to do away with such concepts.

> the company store Night and day. Company doesn’t own the home. Company doesn’t own the stores you shop at.

The company is the “stock market” class.

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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Housing is the crux of this problem and is an issue so intractable, I genuinely don't see a solution. The way the housing market across much of the western world is the way that now is, is because rich people made it that way, and they have all the influence, power and control now, so nothing us small folk can do will likely change things in any meaningful way. Housing has become a commodity, an investment, and so th…

> So literally the only thing that can fix things is to make housing worth a lot less.

And, I'd suggest, structuring property taxes to make real estate investment less lucrative.

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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Why should rent be higher than mortgage costs? Why should renters pay down principal, effectively purchasing the property for the landlord? In the past, landlords owned property and rented it out. If there was a mortgage, rent covered the interest payments rather than principal (interest rates were once far higher than today) and rents were generally lower than mortgage costs. If rent is higher than mortgage costs, t…

In cases where rent exceeds the mortgage, I think the reasons would be to cover the cost of capital, risk, and operational expenses. In this case, the long term expected value of the property might be flat or growing at a lower than average rate so future expected gains can't be used to offset short term losses. If this wasn't the case, in theory renters would just become buyers themselves.

Renters can’t become owners when multi billion investment firms are buying or own large percentages of the market. The market is incredibly distorted and inherently dysfunctional in its current state. Families should be living in housing they own our mortgage not paying someone else’s mortgage or profit to the investment class.

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https://twitter.com/LasVegasLocally/status/14166485497820241... > Las Vegas gas stations are running out of gas because there aren't enough truck drivers to bring the gas here.

Anyone that isn’t currently a trucker should be staying far away from any driving jobs because they will likely be replaced in the next few decades with robots.

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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Or do the unfathomable: Pay people better.

I don’t understand the “pay people more” sentiment. It _seems_ like the correct and obvious solution, but it seems like it just moves the goal line. Margins are razor thin in restaurants specifically. If you pay people more, you’ll need to raise your prices and that will offset the pay raise if it happens across the board. What am I missing?

I suppose for a restaurant specifically, the people who work there and who eat there are very different. If higher wages leads to higher unit price, its not the worker paying that difference, its the wealthier customers.

Of course in the general case, the places the workers do shop at, probably supermarkets, will notice that people have more money to spend and will likely try to capture that extra money for themselves - either because demand of certain items increases or just plain greed.

So continues the endless, exhausting and unwinnable battle between wages and inflation

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Please be more nuanced in your replies when painting with a wide brush. Florida is absolutely exploding right now, and there's so much housing construction here that one can expect to wait for months for contractor availability. I've been in three of the five major FL cities in the past few months and while there are a lot of "help wanted" signs, businesses are open and busier than ever. What's hurting this region is…

I'm unsure what you're asking of me...please clarify? I've traveled in or through Asheville, Greenville, Savannah, Knoxville, Jacksonville, and noticed it. Savannah was probably the worst, and it is not a high cost area, at all. I live in Florida. There's a burger king near me that is just...empty. Lights on, nobody there. The 7/11 near me has one employee. He runs 3 registers to keep the line moving. I see him train…

I didn't ask a question. So your milage varies - not surprising. My experience differs vastly with yours. I've yet to see an understaffed establishment in the Tampa Bay area, nor the three metro areas in FL I've been in recently. Different experience, doesn't make it any less valid.

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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1) The extended UI has indeed ended in a lot of places, it’s not solved the problem. 2) If you need to hold hunger and homelessness over people’s heads in order to make them work, maybe your system is morally bankrupt?

>>>If you need to hold hunger and homelessness over people’s heads in order to make them work, maybe your system is morally bankrupt? You mean the human condition? Life has always been this way and since we're not a post-scarcity society yet I don't see how any workable system would not be morally bankrupt by this standard.

I think we've gone from actual scarcity to the current era of artificial scarcity. Hopefully we get to post-scarcity once we solve that.

We have plenty of everything, enough for everyone but we allocate and distribute it too inefficiently. Supermarkets destroy their unsold food, and Amazon their unsold products. Zoning laws mandate low density areas when we have the engineering to build enough homes for all vertically on the land we do have. Apple could provide iPhones at a cost that everyone can afford but they deliberately price them at a level that only a top % can handle. I think we all know about the scam of diamonds at this point as well.

It's all just fake and caused by the desire for short term profits.

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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I know this article is about Tahoe and paints a rather bleak picture...but this is nationwide. I traveled most of the east coast over the past few months, and every single city's service sectors are begging for employees. I've never seen so many fastfood places closed. And not like, boarded up, but appearing operational but having zero employees. And most weren't high cost of living areas...

Please be more nuanced in your replies when painting with a wide brush. Florida is absolutely exploding right now, and there's so much housing construction here that one can expect to wait for months for contractor availability. I've been in three of the five major FL cities in the past few months and while there are a lot of "help wanted" signs, businesses are open and busier than ever. What's hurting this region is…

I love HN. Anecdotal evidence that goes against the accepted narrative will be downvoted to oblivion. Anecdotal evidence that supports the narrative is praised.

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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NIMBYS are the most short-sighted people ever. And somehow every boomer I know became a NIMBY in the last decade. At least in France they don’t listen to them, unlike in the Bay Area. Can’t wait until this explodes and we can have sane housing policies again.

It won’t explode, though. It won’t explode so hard that we couldn’t even pass prop 15 back in November to close some of the loophole that the biggest would-be business taxpayers in CA currently abuse https://voterguide.sos.ca.gov/propositions/15/ // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_California_Proposition_15 The fear-mongering is always about “first they’re coming for companies, then they’re coming for your home pro…

> I really hope they DO come for home property taxes

Seems like the fears are valid, no?

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