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Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by pmoriarty »

neom wrote: post #18
deregulateMed wrote: post #4

Since this is the first cannabis topic I've seen on HN, I have lots of questions/ideas/problems I want to share. I'm going to post them in no particular order. Maybe someone has a solution >I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious. >Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug…

Smoked weed every day for 10 years. >I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious. Switch strains frequently, try to find stuff far from the other. >Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use? No, but also investing in weed stocks…

"If you have a Drs note, there isn't much they can do."

Many jobs require passing drug tests as a condition of employment.

It would be interesting to hear if anyone has challenged such tests by arguing their cannabis use was a medical necessity.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by pmoriarty »

caymanjim wrote: post #40
neom wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Smoked weed every day for 10 years. >I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious. Switch strains frequently, try to find stuff far from the other. >Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use? No, but also investing in weed stocks…

Overall I agree with your comments. > Switch strains - tends to be more common in Indicas with a higher than normal CBD There is no scientific evidence backing up any claims about the effects of indica vs sativa, and no way to know which strain you're actually getting, even from dispensaries. They tend to be labeled according to the subjective experience of the person deciding how to label them. It's as meaningless a…

"There is no scientific evidence backing up any claims about the effects of indica vs sativa"

Though the research on this is also in its infancy, there has been speculation that the terpenes in cannabis play very important roles its effects.

I'm looking forward to the day when we can choose cannabis based on the various terpenes it contains, and not just on simplistic THC/CBD levels or indica/sativa distinctions.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by agumonkey »

guest456789123 wrote: post #10

Where I come from, we used to grow cannabis plants and use their seeds to feed birds kept in cages, in captivity. Birds liked the seeds and were singing a lot when feed on them. My garden and that of many others was fully of over one meter high cannabis plants. We had no other use for it. I learned it was a drug only when capitalist world reached us. Now, it is illegal to grow it. Related: My grandma, now 93, used to…

capitalist world wasn't always hard against hemp and cannabis I believe

usual politics

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by shusaku »

robbedpeter wrote: post #3

This coincides with the Dryas impact era - there seems to be a lot of cultural advances, settlements, and other artifacts that pop up around that time. It seems very plausible to me that many of the discoveries aren't the first of their kind, but the first reimplementation after humans began to rebuild. The Dryas impact is a fascinating event - if validated, it has the potential to shake up a lot of the currently acc…

I don’t know much about the Dryas impact theory, but skimming the second link it seems to really emphasize the Americas? Should it be matched with data from China like in the main article?

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by klyrs »

tiahura wrote: post #8

So 4000 years before rice? I’m not subject matter expert, but this doesn’t seem quite right.

First off, the press has a bad habit of treating archaeological finds as somehow definitive. I read "first domesticated 12,000 years ago" as "earliest evidence found thus far dated to 12,000 years ago." Rice (and cannabis) could have been domesticated long before that, but without fossil records, we can't claim to know that.

But... why would you assume any relationship between these two plants being domesticated?

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by grasbergerm »

wcchandler wrote: post #28

So glad to see more genomic research around cannabis. I have a jar full of seeds from my late grandfather. He said it was from the same hemp that the Constitution was written on. Doubt the truth behind that but it’d be really cool if one day I could have it analyzed and compared for relatively cheap.

It is a common urban legend that the constitution was written on hemp, but not true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Constitution_hemp_paper_h...

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by LightG »

grasbergerm wrote: post #46
wcchandler wrote: post #28

So glad to see more genomic research around cannabis. I have a jar full of seeds from my late grandfather. He said it was from the same hemp that the Constitution was written on. Doubt the truth behind that but it’d be really cool if one day I could have it analyzed and compared for relatively cheap.

It is a common urban legend that the constitution was written on hemp, but not true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Constitution_hemp_paper_h...

I heard the original one was rolled and smoked, so they had to start again. Hence the current constitution.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by grawprog »

caymanjim wrote: post #40
neom wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Smoked weed every day for 10 years. >I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious. Switch strains frequently, try to find stuff far from the other. >Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use? No, but also investing in weed stocks…

Overall I agree with your comments. > Switch strains - tends to be more common in Indicas with a higher than normal CBD There is no scientific evidence backing up any claims about the effects of indica vs sativa, and no way to know which strain you're actually getting, even from dispensaries. They tend to be labeled according to the subjective experience of the person deciding how to label them. It's as meaningless a…

>There is no scientific evidence backing up any claims about the effects of indica vs sativa, and no way to know which strain you're actually getting, even from dispensaries.

Even if it's the same strain cloned from the previous crop it can be different in THC/CBD content depending on growing conditions and a number of things. Even the harvest date, the drying and the curing process will affect the final product.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by bitxbitxbitcoin »

EvRev wrote: post #22
deregulateMed wrote: post #4

Since this is the first cannabis topic I've seen on HN, I have lots of questions/ideas/problems I want to share. I'm going to post them in no particular order. Maybe someone has a solution >I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious. >Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug…

>Is there a solution to munchies? Lookup THCV, it is an analog that decreases your appetite along with a host of other benefits. Like you can consume any type of cannabis and then take a little THCV to counteract the munchies.

Second anecdata point for THCV for appetite suppressing, and the host of other benefits including memory improving.
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