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Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Post by kenmacd »

commoner wrote: post #118
kenmacd wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't suppose any of them allow setting a custom root of trust though, right? I haven't managed to find anything other than the Pixels that have it.

The Xiaomi Mi A2 supports relocking the bootloader with a custom key, but only on older versions of the bootloader (MIUI 9 / Android 8.1, or earlier): https://gitlab.com/CalyxOS/calyxos/-/issues/88 https://review.calyxos.org/c/CalyxOS/calyxos.org/+/2904/4/pa... Not sure about other Xiaomi phones.

Interesting. Thank you, I'll check it out.

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Post by sildur »

aneutron wrote: post #110
sildur wrote: post #105

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Try it, it works. Parent probably tried a very old version of LineageOS.

That is true. Can you please point me to a guide to get it working ? Thanks in advance !

Well, I installed it in a Samsung S10, but here is a guide for your phone:

https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/sunfish/

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Post by siruncledrew »

meibo wrote: post #4

They're flooding the market with good, very very cheap smartphones - it's no surprise. Especially for older people that don't need $500+ flagships, a $150 Xiaomi is more than sufficient. I see them a lot nowadays. Makes me wonder if it's sustainable.

Jio is doing the same gameplan in India, and that’s already proven successful as far as I can tell.

I think it’s sustainable considering the vast majority of the world can’t afford an iPhone or even a Samsung, so there’s a large market. Also, once someone has a phone that can run a web browser, have a camera, and use messaging apps, then that’s basically set for this target market.

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Post by murukesh_s »

meibo wrote: post #4

They're flooding the market with good, very very cheap smartphones - it's no surprise. Especially for older people that don't need $500+ flagships, a $150 Xiaomi is more than sufficient. I see them a lot nowadays. Makes me wonder if it's sustainable.

>Makes me wonder if it's sustainable.

The pricing is now norm in Asia for last several years. In fact Xiaomi is not #1 in terms of quality or value for money. It's Oppo/Realme/OnePlus (all are same hardware). They do not have ads like Xiaomi and pretty much retail for the same price and ship millions of hardware. The quality is definitely higher with Oppo/Realme (budget options) having same quality as Oneplus (premium).

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Post by wenc »

bitcoinmoney wrote: post #116
arcturus17 wrote: post #112

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If you want a sub $200 Apple product you can go down the refurb route. I’m having an outstanding experience with a refurb iPhone 8.

Where to get it somewhere with good reputation?

I've had good experience with: (they're a French unicorn)

https://www.backmarket.com/

There are others:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/04/12/not-all...

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Post by oriolid »

the_third_wave wrote: post #92
grishka wrote: post #35

Xiaomi is able to make their phones so cheap by making their software as crappy as possible. They collect a lot of data (yes, their calculator app has a privacy policy) and sometimes show ads. You need a Xiaomi account to enable debugging (adb). Though they're still immensely popular here in Russia.

> You need a Xiaomi account to enable debugging (adb). Just unlock and root the thing as soon as you get it and Xiaomi will not get any data - either put LineageOS on it or de-fang MIUI by removing the nasty bits. Don't use the phone with a logged-in Mi account, the only valid reason for using the Mi account is to get the unlock code. Once unlocked and rooted you can remove nearly all the Mi-account-related parts fro…

It doesn't help if you're an app developer. All you can do is to keep hacking around Xiaomi's bugs because the users sure won't install LineageOS. The part about preventing adb is just icing on the cake. The nice part is that unlike with Samsung, the users know that they're buying crap and often don't really expect apps to work.

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Post by reactspa »

the_third_wave wrote: post #82
meibo wrote: post #4

They're flooding the market with good, very very cheap smartphones - it's no surprise. Especially for older people that don't need $500+ flagships, a $150 Xiaomi is more than sufficient. I see them a lot nowadays. Makes me wonder if it's sustainable.

> Especially for older people that don't need $500+ flagships, a $150 Xiaomi is more than sufficient Let me rephrase that for you: Especially for people who realise they don't need $500+ flagships, a $150 Xiaomi is more than sufficient. It has nothing whatsoever to do with age, my 16yo daughter is more than satisfied with her Redmi Note 5 - she wanted one when she saw mine. Good battery life, good screen, more than f…

I like that my Xiaomi Max 2 from 2017 has a 3.5mm jack, can take an SD card, AND has an infrared port (and so works as a remote for my TV and DVD player).

Xiaomi, if you're listening, please continue to make at least one line of phone that has these features.

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Post by commoner »

kenmacd wrote: post #151
commoner wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Xiaomi Mi A2 supports relocking the bootloader with a custom key, but only on older versions of the bootloader (MIUI 9 / Android 8.1, or earlier): https://gitlab.com/CalyxOS/calyxos/-/issues/88 https://review.calyxos.org/c/CalyxOS/calyxos.org/+/2904/4/pa... Not sure about other Xiaomi phones.

Interesting. Thank you, I'll check it out.

Another manufacturer that supports relocking the bootloader with a custom key is OnePlus:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-re-locking-the-boot...

None of the operating systems that are designed to be used with a relocked bootloader (e.g. CalyxOS, GrapheneOS, RattlesnakeOS) support OnePlus phones at the moment, so you'll need to build LineageOS, AOSP, or some other Android variant manually to use it on a OnePlus phone with a relocked bootloader.

There might be more device models with this kind of support. Search for "avb_custom_key" with the model name to see whether anyone has commented on this.

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Post by adflux »

totalZero wrote: post #132
pacifer007 wrote: post #101

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By that logic, you should stop buying American products first. They been meddling in world affairs, since, forever. And you can see what they did to Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan (create taliban, use them against Soviets, demolish Afghanistan, blame Taliban on someone else.) What's your point.

You created an account to say this?

Feels like Chinese astroturfing to me

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Post by shuckles »

ksec wrote: post #95
bamboozled wrote: post #58

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How can it really be that much better than a flagship iPhone? This kind of reads like your a person who hates the price of iPhones? Either that or I read like an Apple fan boy; However, I'm a pretty keen Linux / PC user and I don't think I'm that bias?

It is sort of like, Yes and No it depends. There are reasons why things are little bit more expensive to make. And those add up quickly. The flexible OLED panel is more than double the BOM cost of rigid OLED even at the scale of Apple. For Apple that is ~$150+ of RSP increase form a single component. It is not only just being rigid, but they are also a higher quality panel. People often only look at " spec " on the s…

Apple’s overall margins are around 35%. Where do you see that iPhone has 60% margins?
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