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Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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By that logic, you should stop buying American products first. They been meddling in world affairs, since, forever.

And you can see what they did to Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan (create taliban, use them against Soviets, demolish Afghanistan, blame Taliban on someone else.)

What's your point.

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Sure we were liberated by having a military junta take power for 21 years. Civil liberties vanished and people were secretly disappeared. Great democratic liberation!

I certainly don't claim that every intervention is liberation. My point is precisely that it's not that simple. It can be either or both at the same time for different people in different conflicts.

My point is that there's no such a thing as "liberation", since interventions are known to be used as a pretext to project power. Calling it "liberation" is an euphemism for what it really is. No nation should meddle in other's internal affairs.

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Xiaomi is able to make their phones so cheap by making their software as crappy as possible. They collect a lot of data (yes, their calculator app has a privacy policy) and sometimes show ads. You need a Xiaomi account to enable debugging (adb). Though they're still immensely popular here in Russia.

so no account > no adb > no root, right ?

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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For me the greatest value is 2+ days battery and the fact that I'm not afraid to loose/break €200 phone vs €600, while Xiaomi is better in many aspects. Went to it 5 years ago after using flagship Samsung models also for c.5 years, could not stand for abysmal battery and their UI. Ad bloat could be disabled in settings, I did not see too many suspicious logs in Netguard (calls to Facebook APIs were much more frequent…

I would like this to be true (who doesn't want to pay less for the same experience) but it's very much not the case. Eg. two years ago I broke my one plus 6, I went to a local mall - they have a Xiaomi store there and a Samsung shop, I spent like 20 mins playing with the phones in each store and you could immediately see which was the premium brand between the two. I still pass by regularly to check things out and ge…

Well, I said "better in many aspects", not overall better. For me, the camera is not that much important. It's good enough on Xiaomi, but obviously it's better on iPhone.

It's personal preferences, for me the aspects of long battery life and turning the device into disposable cattle, not a pet, are much more important. The display on Xiaomi is decent, and that plus fast responsive apps the display shows is all I need from a phone.

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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The downside is that you lose DRM-enabled content. For example, it's a hassle to use Netflix at 720p/1080p, and what's more important to my use case for example, is Spotify. It's _possible_ in theory, but it's extremely hacky. I personally went the Google route w/ a Pixel 4a, so I get a simple, zero non-sense UI, with no forced ads or anything, just a smooth experience, at a slight premium (not that much to be comple…

I have LineageOS on my Xiaomi phone and the only hassle is contactless payment. Spotify works fine and I did not try Netflix.

Try it, it works. Parent probably tried a very old version of LineageOS.

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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I've got a Xiaomi phone (Mi 10 Lite) and am pretty happy with it. Hardware is great. Software (MIUI) is adware crap, which I knew when I was buying. I tweaked privacy settings as much was possible, and I use almost none of the builtin apps. Instead I use Firefox Focus+Mobile for browsing, Amaze for file management, Dropbox for file storage and PDF view, etc. Overall the entire experience is comparable (for me) to a S…

Most of the Xiaomi phones are supported by LineageOS. If you have an hour to spare, you can easily unlock the bootloader and install it to get a stock Android experience (even skip out Google Services if you want). I have the Poco F1, cost me about $230 for SD845 + 8GB RAM + 4000mAh + 256GB storage. It's a pretty good deal after installing LineageOS on it.

An hour to spare after waiting a week for Xiaomi to authorize unlocking of the bootloader. I bought a Poco X3 Pro yesterday, the phone is awesome for it's asking price (R$ 1800), but I'll keep using my current one (Redmi Note 4) until next week. Im not sure if I'm going to wipe it and install another ROM or just install root and use Titanium Backup to freeze most of Google and Xiaomi's stuff.

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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It's really confusing because so many Wikipedia and Media Articles write that Oppo is a Subsidiary of BBK...

I wish English writer investigate about this topic

They are not, in the straight sense of Subsidiary.

>A subsidiary, subsidiary company or daughter company is a company owned or controlled by another company,

Hence that is why using BBK as one would have been wrong. BBK does not own majority of shares, nor de jure voting power. But in a complex power relationship BBK do have much higher leverage or with other investor de facto voting power. Think if Foxconn decided to invest into 5 different Phone making companies, ( Like the current Nokia Smartphone ) and Foxconn is a shareholder and provide technical and manufacturing consultancy, you would not list them all under Foxconn right?

I wont blame the English main stream media most of them are so late to anything from Japan and China it is borderline comical.

I mean when I first mentioned BBK in 2015 no one had a clue what I was talking about. My earliest comment on BBK on HN was from Jan 2018 [1]. Barely anyone knew BBK then. As a matter of fact even right now not that many have heard of BBK.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16265008

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I certainly don't claim that every intervention is liberation. My point is precisely that it's not that simple. It can be either or both at the same time for different people in different conflicts.

My point is that there's no such a thing as "liberation", since interventions are known to be used as a pretext to project power. Calling it "liberation" is an euphemism for what it really is. No nation should meddle in other's internal affairs.

I strongly disagree with that. In my opinion, the sovereignty of nation states does not have priority over all other concerns under all circumstances. But this is certainly a very complex issue.

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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This is a list of brand market shares, incorrectly labeled as vendor market shares. The largest smartphone vendor is BBK Electronics. They manufacture multiple brands like Oppo, Vivo, OnePlus, Realme, iQOO. Their brands have over 40% market share in China, India, over 50% in Southeast Asia, and are generally the largest vendor all over the developing world. The real list is 1. 24% BBK Electronics (10% Oppo, 10% Vivo,…

I read mobile industry mania's blogpost written in Japanese, it argues that OPPO was delivered from BBK but there are no capital relationship between BBK Communication Technology and OPPO(Guangdong Oujia Holdings). It also refers Nikkei's article confirmed that. http://blogofmobile.com/article/121143 I searched and it seems true. https://www.qichamao.com/orgcompany/searchitemdtl/e6f25044f9... https://www.aitouyan.com…

That seems unlikely considering the hardware similarities between OPPO, Vivo and OnePlus phones.

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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post #73

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I have LineageOS on my Xiaomi phone and the only hassle is contactless payment. Spotify works fine and I did not try Netflix.

Try it, it works. Parent probably tried a very old version of LineageOS.

That is true. Can you please point me to a guide to get it working ? Thanks in advance !
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