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Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by fendy3002 »

libertine wrote: post #222
ketzo wrote: post #44

There’s obviously a lot of people who like playing games in a more mobile format, as evidenced by the huge popularity of the Switch Lite / mobile gaming. Giving the PC games market access to that form factor seems, on its face, like an extremely good move. But we’ve seen products like this before — the NVIDIA Shield, for one. Pretty cool piece of tech, but didn’t exactly start a revolution. I guess the question becom…

>But we’ve seen products like this before — the NVIDIA Shield, for one. Pretty cool piece of tech, but didn’t exactly start a revolution. People forget that these devices without marketing and consistency they won't go far. Nintendo, Sony, even MS that came later to the party have hundreds (if not thousands) of millions poured to build their brands, over decades... Sega knew how to play this game and still didn't man…

> People forget that these devices without marketing and consistency they won't go far.

But seeing Valve's track record, marketing isn't their strong point too.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by fendy3002 »

hvis wrote: post #934
jalgos_eminator wrote: post #247

Everyone is talking about gaming, but do you guys think this could be a laptop replacement? I've been intrigued by docking tablets for years now, but haven't found one I like yet (that can run linux well, so no Surface). I like the tablet form factor for web browsing and watching videos, but nearly all the tablets are too phone-like to get real work done. I don't actually play games much anymore, but do people actual…

You won't be able to do much typing in the portable mode, though, right? Looks fairly attractive otherwise.

Indeed, in portable mode it'll be hell to type. But for some server maintenance (ssh, service start / stop, read log) and database / app designing it won't be much of a problem.

I must say for programming or office related workstation, a non-joystick version will be better. But if we want a lite programming pc that's able to be docked that can also act as multimedia and gaming, it's suitable.

Well if the controller can be detached (maybe nintento patented them?) like switch it'll be awesome.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by judge2020 »

jl6 wrote: post #377

“Installing Linux is hard” is about to flip on its head as people find themselves with Linux installed by default and instead having to figure out how to install Windows (and pay for it explicitly).

Windows barely locks anything up when you run it not activated, and it's super simple to install it without a license.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by NaN1352 »

rasz wrote: post #689
alanwreath wrote: post #453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

`Steam Deck is a PC, and players will be able to install whatever they like, including other OSes.` this is probably this most exciting thing about this release. How many days until this thing is running k3s and/or serving up a prometheus dashboard on the same device that is touch capable?

The only exciting thing is the form factor. Spec wise its an underperforming laptop with integrated graphics delivering below 8 year old GTX 760 level of "performance". 1280 x 800 at up to 30 fps.

30fps gives longer battery life.

IGN clarified 2 tflops "in the ballpark of xbox one or ps4".

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by zzt123 »

ineedasername wrote: post #765
vially wrote: post #386

I'm going to buy this just to support Valve for their continued support in making Linux desktop a viable gaming platform. Their reasons may not be entirely altruistic, but there's no doubt that they had a tremendous impact on the Linux gaming ecosystem. And it's not just the Linux gamers that are benefiting from their work. They also seem to be doing good work on lower-level parts of the stack (e.g.: graphic drivers,…

Similar: I have a Hades Canyon GH Nuc because I want a very low profile rig that can run older games on high and new games on low and throw it in a bag w/ power adapter & go. Not only does this accomplish the same thing, it runs Linux and means that if I'm just bringing something along for gaming it's completely self contained.

Specs say it’s a 15w unit (much lower than Hades Canyon), so I imagine the performance will be lacking as it appears to be a Zen 2 based APU.

Would be interesting to see how this does on Zen 4 with the 5nm upgrade.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by CWuestefeld »

How is this going to be able to play AAA games? It's going to need to emulate x86, as well as add the WINE layer for compatibility. I can't imagine this being able to keep up.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by smoldesu »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #946

How is this going to be able to play AAA games? It's going to need to emulate x86, as well as add the WINE layer for compatibility. I can't imagine this being able to keep up.

Valve has spent the past 5 years optimizing Wine (and the technologies behind it, like DXVK) to be perfect. The performance drop is seriously quite negligible in most titles[0], and considering how powerful their GPU is... I have high hopes for this little machine.

[0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voXc1nCD4IA

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

mikepurvis wrote: post #361
gfaure wrote: post #166

Many people I know have bought more games on Steam than they could ever play (a behaviour encouraged by seasonal Steam sales). This strikes me as a great chance for people to discover and play titles that have sat in their collections for years.

Guilty. For various reasons, I just don't find gaming on my laptop or media computer an enjoyable experience. Too much dealing with thermals, audio/controller issues, random driver crashes and updates (thanks AMD), etc etc. I know I can get it to work , but when I'm at the point in the day where I just want to play a game for an hour before bed, the PS4 can have me into it in 10 seconds or less with a very low likeli…

I ditched my PC for a PS4 a few years back, and the quality of life improvement was tremendous. No more endlessly updating... everything, down to the MOUSE DRIVERS. Just hit the button, and pick up where you left off.

I used to worry about the thermal cycle of playing Civ 5 on my MBP, but it's a 2019, and I WANT it to wear out early -- if such a thing is possibly -- to justify upgrading to an M-based, TouchBar-less version sooner.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

yehudalouis wrote: post #241

Halfway down the page on https://www.steamdeck.com/en/ they have a graphic of a user logging in with the username 'gordon' and an obscured password, which conveniently has the same number of letters as halflife3, haha.

I have always said that they are sitting on HL3 until they release a proper console they felt they could throw their weight behind. The Steam Box sure wasn't. This could indeed be it...
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