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Re: Valve Steam Deck

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post #148

> Deck What an uninspiring name! (with unfortunate mispronunciations). Looks very interesting though, price point (starting at £349) seems very competitive.

I'd like to believe they named it that simply so kids could pull a "My Deck is bigger than yours!".

> "My Deck is bigger than yours!"

Ah, the rallying cry of EDH/Commander players everywhere.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

#243
post #107

Does it run Crysis? \s

I don't know if Proton runs on SteamOS, but if it does (it should), yes, then it should be able to run Crysis ;-) https://www.protondb.com/app/17300

This thing is banking on Proton pretty heavily. It's even mentioned in the marketing material for developers:

"Steam Deck runs SteamOS 3.0, and thanks to Proton, your build will likely work right out of the box."

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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I really wonder what the point of this is. Mobile gaming is a meme at this point. It's a thing but phones and tables have it well catered too. We don't need another mobile gaming thing that will surely be in the bargain bin in as couple years.

Nintendo Switch sales figures will prove otherwise.

I own a switch. I have never played it in mobile configuration in the years I have owned it, neither do any people that I know that have it, neither do my nieces or nephews. I would trade switch mobile capability for 4k in a second.

The reason why the switch is popular is the same reason why a long line of absolutely craptastic Nintendo hardware is popular: exclusive Nintendo software, which this platform will obviously not have.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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The pricing even doesn't seem unreasonable. If the device is of a good quality, this could sell pretty well.

I don't disagree, but I think the $399 version might be their undoing. 64GB is about 1 AAA game, and 0 in some cases. So people are going to get this one for their kids for Christmas, the kids are going to say it's shit, and it's going to get a bad reputation, even if the high end models are good. Maybe they have solutions lined up for the problems that will come with low/slow storage, but we'll see!

The Switch has had the same problem, which causes me to basically never keep AAA games installed for long, but they are still quite successful.

The Switch also tops out at 64GB with the new OLED model, whereas that's the starting point for the Steam Deck. There is also a history of consoles being offered with a wide variety of different storage sizes (Xbox 360), and I don't remember that causing any serious problems for them (if you ignore the humongous size of the Xbox dashboard at the end of its lifetime, which is an avoidable problem).

Re: Valve Steam Deck

#246

I always felt their controller was a bit of a weird product. Turns out they were just dipping their toes in the water. I wonder if they are going to produce this fully in house like the controller. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCgnWqoP4MM

Valve wanted to compete with consoles. Consoles go in the living room and are played with a controller. Your home's PC is not in the living room, so how does Valve fix that? The Steam Link. Okay, but PC games are frequently designed to be played with a mouse and keyboard. There's lots of stuff to click on. So how do you play that from the couch without some elaborate lap pad with a mouse and keyboard on it? The Valve…

>So how do you play that from the couch without some elaborate lap pad with a mouse and keyboard on it? The Valve Controller. I see how it could very well have worked.

I guess maybe in a world where every console controller isn't compatible with most PC games, cheaper than the valve controller and more ergonomically designed than the valve controller...maybe if Logitech, 8bitdo, Razer etc. didn't exist and didn't produce cheaper or better controllers it could have worked....

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Everyone is talking about gaming, but do you guys think this could be a laptop replacement? I've been intrigued by docking tablets for years now, but haven't found one I like yet (that can run linux well, so no Surface). I like the tablet form factor for web browsing and watching videos, but nearly all the tablets are too phone-like to get real work done.

I don't actually play games much anymore, but do people actually want a portable gaming device in addition to their phone? They always felt like gimmicks to me.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

#248
post #9

I really hope that this market picks up steam (heh) and we get to see even more bigger names coming up with devices. The Aya Neo [1], OneXPlayer [2], and GPD Win3 [3] have all come out relatively close to each other with different ideas of what people want in a handheld gaming PC. Valve seems to want to get in on a price that is more competitive with the Nintendo Switch, so its hardware specs are a bit worse it seems…

I'm surprised they went with a custom AMD part. Seems expensive for what is likely to be a low volume product. Why not just do a laptop in a handheld form factor.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

#249

I’d like a device that streams my home PC games with decent handheld controls, it doesn’t need to do anything else. Any recommendations?

Given steam PCs can stream between each other, I suspect this would be able to as well. Otherwise there's the nvidia shield portable, though I haven't tried it.
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