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Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by harry8 »

thorum wrote: post #111
caslon wrote: post #38

First impressions: Really good hardware for the price. They fixed the worst thing about SteamOS: It's now got an Arch base. They're definitely overcharging for storage, but I imagine it'll be easy enough to modify one, so it probably doesn't matter much. Why is any company having more USB-2 slots than USB-3 these days? Going with a relatively low resolution compared to modern ones is actually a surprisingly smart mov…

One negative: With all that hardware it’s almost 3 times heavier than the Nintendo Switch, which is already near the upper limit for holding comfortable for longer play sessions. edit: On closer look that's comparing the Switch without controllers (297g) to the Steam Deck with controllers (669g). The Switch with controllers is 398g, so the Steam Deck is only ~1.7x times as heavy - though that's still a lot of extra w…

This is such a short-term knee-jerk reaction. We should be thanking Steam for their wonderful push to get gamers into shape. Toned arms might seem like a bit of a joke but when you consider you get your biggest exercise wins doing literally anything at all this will literally save lives. How can you not be for it? Is it heavy enough is the only question to be asked here. There is nothing valve won't do for us!

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by JKCalhoun »

lostmsu wrote: post #572
caconym_ wrote: post #286

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The thing about Valve's record with hardware is that the products aren't bad , just extremely niche. If this thing really can play most of most people's Steam games in a Switch-like form factor with a standard gamepad layout, I think it stands to be a hit in a way their past hardware attempts weren't. It's also an interesting counterpoint to all the streaming services popping up these days. PC game streaming to mobil…

One of the major reasons people play PC games is mouse and keyboard are way better than joystick. I don't see myself playing PC games on a handheld.

(worse even: thumbstick)

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by xmprt »

Fnoord wrote: post #749
l0b0 wrote: post #606

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Arch Linux is amazing. The biggest surprise for me was that it's more stable than so-called stable distros, probably because the various packages don't end up drifting several months from each other when keeping up to date. Hopefully this eventually results in more user friendly Arch Linux installers. The learning curve is an absolute wall when installing, even after several years on Linux, but after that it's pretty…

Arch Linux sucks. Its the default OS on the Pinephone which I use as a backup smartphone (main smartphone is Android). I'm used to running Debian, which is rock stable. Arch Linux? I get dependency issues when I'm running the software update installer. Not once or twice, all bloody time. I mean, WTF? How would anyone want such in production??? NixOS is more sane because it has roll backs, and declarative configuratio…

Sounds like a problem with the software update installer and not Arch Linux.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by bkallus »

Fnoord wrote: post #749
l0b0 wrote: post #606

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Arch Linux is amazing. The biggest surprise for me was that it's more stable than so-called stable distros, probably because the various packages don't end up drifting several months from each other when keeping up to date. Hopefully this eventually results in more user friendly Arch Linux installers. The learning curve is an absolute wall when installing, even after several years on Linux, but after that it's pretty…

Arch Linux sucks. Its the default OS on the Pinephone which I use as a backup smartphone (main smartphone is Android). I'm used to running Debian, which is rock stable. Arch Linux? I get dependency issues when I'm running the software update installer. Not once or twice, all bloody time. I mean, WTF? How would anyone want such in production??? NixOS is more sane because it has roll backs, and declarative configuratio…

To be fair, that's Arch Linux ARM, which is technically a separate project. The pinephone arch linux arm repositories aren't even maintained by the official project. That said, I've had no such issues running Arch on my pinephone.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by wackget »

rasz wrote: post #689
alanwreath wrote: post #453

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`Steam Deck is a PC, and players will be able to install whatever they like, including other OSes.` this is probably this most exciting thing about this release. How many days until this thing is running k3s and/or serving up a prometheus dashboard on the same device that is touch capable?

The only exciting thing is the form factor. Spec wise its an underperforming laptop with integrated graphics delivering below 8 year old GTX 760 level of "performance". 1280 x 800 at up to 30 fps.

Yeah except it's the size of a TV remote.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by Fnoord »

0-_-0 wrote: post #467
Blackthorn wrote: post #144

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Did the steam link really go nowhere? I have a physical box, and it works magically well. My understanding is it's still available, just not as a physical box.

It works, but if you have an nvidia GPU Moonlight works better.

AMD Link also works.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by mastazi »

belltaco wrote: post #165
superkuh wrote: post #82

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I love Valve but it seems like they create these hardware projects to occasionally remind platform owners like microsoft/playstation/nintendo that they can't completely abuse their users and software devs (Win10 store lock-in, etc) and retain all of them. Valve just wants to protect steam and credible hardware platform competition is how they do it. I don't think they have any real plans to produce and support hardwa…

And yet it looks like you cannot use the Steam Deck without logging into a Steam account. Looks like we are trading in one lock-in for another.

They say in their partner website that it's a PC, and that you can even wipe out Steam OS and install another OS if you want.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/steamdeck/faq

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by ByThyGrace »

harry8 wrote: post #751
thorum wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One negative: With all that hardware it’s almost 3 times heavier than the Nintendo Switch, which is already near the upper limit for holding comfortable for longer play sessions. edit: On closer look that's comparing the Switch without controllers (297g) to the Steam Deck with controllers (669g). The Switch with controllers is 398g, so the Steam Deck is only ~1.7x times as heavy - though that's still a lot of extra w…

This is such a short-term knee-jerk reaction. We should be thanking Steam for their wonderful push to get gamers into shape. Toned arms might seem like a bit of a joke but when you consider you get your biggest exercise wins doing literally anything at all this will literally save lives . How can you not be for it? Is it heavy enough is the only question to be asked here. There is nothing valve won't do for us!

I can't tell if you're posting copypasta... Sure reads like one.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by kart23 »

liminalsunset wrote: post #279

Can the 64GB version be upgraded DIY with a NVMe SSD? It claims to be a eMMC but goes on to clarify it is a PCIe Gen2 x1 connection. Does this mean it is just a m.2 card?

https://youtu.be/oLtiRGTZvGM?t=477

unfortunately, IGN's video says you can't upgrade the internal storage. I'd guess its soldered on.

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