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Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Arch Linux is amazing. The biggest surprise for me was that it's more stable than so-called stable distros, probably because the various packages don't end up drifting several months from each other when keeping up to date. Hopefully this eventually results in more user friendly Arch Linux installers. The learning curve is an absolute wall when installing, even after several years on Linux, but after that it's pretty…

Manjaro Linux provides a nice, easy installer for Arch. With different editions based on your preferred DE. https://manjaro.org/download/

> Manjaro Linux provides a nice, easy installer for Arch. With different editions based on your preferred DE.

It's more than an installer. Manjaro and Arch don't even share repositories.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Most online gaming is currently borked on Linux because the anticheat software doesn't work. Does this get around that somehow? Will I be able to use the same method on my Linux machine? EDIT: Otherwise 'runs the latest AAA games - and runs them really well' seems like oversell. EDIT2: From their 'software' page: 'For Deck, we're vastly improving Proton's game compatibility and support for anti-cheat solutions by wor…

This is such good news for linux users! Since this means more linux compatibility, rather than game studios going "Just use Windows".

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Can the 64GB version be upgraded DIY with a NVMe SSD? It claims to be a eMMC but goes on to clarify it is a PCIe Gen2 x1 connection. Does this mean it is just a m.2 card?

AMD CPUs have dedicated eMMC controller on die. eMMC flash is super cheap compared to dedicated pcie SSD.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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From the FAQ [0]: - What OS is Steam Deck running? SteamOS 3.0, a new version of SteamOS based on Arch Linux. - Will people be able to install Windows, or other 3rd party content? Yes. Steam Deck is a PC, and players will be able to install whatever they like, including other OSes. [0]: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/steamdeck/faq

Thanks! This was the #1 thing I was looking for and didn't see while scrolling through all their marketing material.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Did anyone find anywhere what the compatibility of all/most games would be with SteamOS? I know Proton has come a long way but doesn't have complete coverage of the Steam library: is SteamOS improving on that?

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Wow! a few weeks ago I made a comment to the effect that SteamOS seemed to be close to abandonware at this point with no new releases in a few years.

I am extremely happy to be wrong! Sure this is great for gaming, but it will also bring Linux to a lot more people too.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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You have to consider that PC hardware is currently spiraling out of control in terms of price, and $400 for the specs it has presently is a fairly decent buy even if you don't care about the form factor.

I wonder if they're selling at a loss? Valve can afford it, plus it'd be no different than Sony/Nintendo/etc subsidizing hardware since they make most of their profits from software sales. Only difference is that, unlike traditional game companies, this Steam Deck thing isn't a walled garden. But of course, Steam has a near monopoly on PC gaming so it's unlikely that'll be a problem for them.

To be honest, I don't think your assumption is that far off. The way that Gabe talks about this device, I feel like the purpose is simply to extend the PC gaming market, which is essential for Steam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXgDAF6QpM

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Gotta admit, I never saw that coming. I thought SteamOS was dead after the failure of Steam Machines and Valve was only continuing with their Linux efforts because it's still a useful hedge against Microsoft locking everyone in the App Store. I totally did not expect them to copy the Switch use-case with it. I'm anxious to see how this turns out. Valve's history with hardware is not so great, so it could go nowhere l…

I love Valve but it seems like they create these hardware projects to occasionally remind platform owners like microsoft/playstation/nintendo that they can't completely abuse their users and software devs (Win10 store lock-in, etc) and retain all of them. Valve just wants to protect steam and credible hardware platform competition is how they do it. I don't think they have any real plans to produce and support hardwa…

A reminder that if Microsoft does continue along that path, Valve is happy to come along and gobble up significant portions of their market share. It's a win-win for Valve: either MS keeps their platform out of a walled garden, allowing Steam to continue it's current path, or Valve eats their lunch while making Linux in general a more mainstream option.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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I don't see any mention of VR. I wonder if they will support plugging in a Valve Index. Seems like it should be possible through the dock. Oculus headsets wouldn't work though, since they don't support Linux. Unless you can install Windows on this thing somehow... Edit: Yes you can install Windows: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/steamdeck/faq This might be a good companion for an Oculus Quest headset. $299 for Qu…

Not a chance in hell that this runs SteamVR with acceptable performance, though. I'm not convinced that this will work as a VR rig at all.

they say you can, but good luck to you:

IGN: Can I play VR off of it?

Pierre-Loup Griffais: I mean, it has all the connectivity. You would need [a lot] to do that, but that's not really what we're optimizing the performance for.

IGN: So you can try it, but your mileage may vary.

Pierre-Loup Griffais: Yeah.

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