I stay with my rule of thumb: Any corporate press release that contains the words "we believe that" is trying to bullshit an unethical business practice into something positive.
Facebook users said no to tracking, and now advertisers are panicking
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Re: Facebook users said no to tracking, and now advertisers are panicking
#82How in the world can this be considered reasonable for them to track you across other apps and sites? This like if the local grocery store owner would install hidden cameras to spy on me at home and at work and in the car and one day somebody forced them to ask if I'm sure that's what I want them to do. This all makes me start feeling like I might finally want an iPhone...
> This all makes me start feeling like I might finally want an iPhone... Or maybe don't use Facebook on Android?
Or maybe don't use Facebook at all?
And block any and all Facebook DNS queries with a PiHole.
Re: Facebook users said no to tracking, and now advertisers are panicking
#83If people opt out of what you're doing to them as soon as they're made aware you're doing it, then perhaps that's a sign that you shouldn't have been doing it in the first place. I don't even believe that 25% of users actually wanted tracking. I think a lot of people just blindly tap buttons to make annoyances go away, and these guys just hit the wrong button.
Almost all "consent" to these types of "services" is obtained via people blindly tapping buttons to make annoyances go away.
Re: Facebook users said no to tracking, and now advertisers are panicking
#84The only aspect of this story which surprises me is that 25% of iOS users opted in to tracking.
Plenty of people find value in things like better ads or more connectivity across sites. Tracking can imrpove some services (I let maps keep my location history) and while I always use adblocks on PC, I admit to have found interesting relevant to me stores on instagram presumably because they keep data about me.
That's interesting ! They exist !
I really nearly fainted when I saw my location history on google and now that I have a firewalled Huawei with Google forbidden on it, I finally feel a bit location-safe :D And it's not that I care that americans know where I am, it's that people can just get my phone/account, people close to me, and track me, eww.
I really am impressed you found relevant stuff on instagram, but I found that desiring less things is usually just as rewarding as getting an add for the right flavor of yoghurt.
Re: Facebook users said no to tracking, and now advertisers are panicking
#85I mean this is amazing!
But, doesn't this increase competition for any other advertiser who doesn't have all historic data and algorithm Facebook has had.
Re: Facebook users said no to tracking, and now advertisers are panicking
#86It’s almost as if, given information and a choice, people prefer not to have their eyeballs monetized. Of course, if this catches on (and I hope it does), we ultimately run up against “people prefer not to pay for things.” Will be fun to watch.
> It’s almost as if, given information and a choice, people prefer not to have their eyeballs monetized.
I wonder, are people who use facebook and who would prefer to not have their eyeballs monetized like this not aware of Facebook's business model?
How do they think Facebook will stay operational? I personally think it's best to just drop Facebook, but I'm sure my parents and grandparents would rather have Facebook with adds than no Facebook.
Re: Facebook users said no to tracking, and now advertisers are panicking
#87Even with all the tracking, the generated ads still suck, showing things already purchased. This reminds me of the overhyped lead generation tools out there, they do not work as expected. Someone's financial interest is the root cause here, someone is making good money with ads. The ones who sell ads? For sure. The ones who buy adds? Not many success stories out there.
they wouldn't do it if it didn't work. i'm not in the business but i think these kinds of ads work quite well if you return the thing you just bought.
> they wouldn't do it if it didn't work.
Citation needed.
Re: Facebook users said no to tracking, and now advertisers are panicking
#88I couldn't actually find a source on this. The Bloomsburg article doesn't talk about any companies in panic.
Re: Facebook users said no to tracking, and now advertisers are panicking
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
That sense of entitlement that you can get stuff for free without having to pay for it in some way. You use facebook for free, it seems to provide you some value, why do you think you are entitled to get this for free?
I am not getting it for free, I am already paying for it with my share of the ad budget included in all the products I buy. And I am not asking for anything to be for free, just allow me to pay for it.
This is such convoluted reasoning and you keep mentioning it. For example I could say: "I don't want to pay the road toll, I pay for it with the gas tax I pay" or "I don't want to pay for Disneyland, I pay for it with all the things I buy inside". Technically Disney could make entrance free and charge ridiculous rates for everything inside but I'm certain that makes theme parks significantly less viable as a business - maybe even straight up unprofitable.
Re: Facebook users said no to tracking, and now advertisers are panicking
#90The article spins it (towards the end) as though this is a bad thing.
Ridiculous.