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Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Ya exactly. What is his response to them being in jail instead of him? What a horrible thing to do to someone.

Maybe he's working behind the scenes to free them, but in the interview, he did not seem overly concerned about their fate.

Not much he can do.

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Too bad for all the people that helped him escape who are being jailed now.

Should have sorted out moving to a country that wouldn't extradite them in their deal with Ghosn then. Ghosn would have been desperate enough to provide it.

Coming back to the US was dumb, the Taylor’s apparently had a home in Lebanon.

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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I'm making the point that the base rate of criminality needs to be taken into account if you want to compare incarceration rates. For many different reasons people in one society might commit more crime than people in another society. Though I do not use the example myself, preferring the murder rate example, the parent's suggestion is a reasonable way to control for this inter-society difference. I would bet that Ja…

> I would bet that Japanese in the U.S. evince rates of criminality more similar to those of Japanese in Japan than to the rest of American society What makes you believe that? If true, what might cause that to be the case?

I think most people know that Asians in the US commit less crime than other races. As for why, there are probably cultural reasons.

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Competing with Porsche? Can you expound on that?

The R35 GT-R took down everything from Ferraris to Porsches and Lamborghinis when it first came out, both in straight line speed and handling on the track. Results at 3m10s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDP7Pty8Qnw&t=130s Probably a bit of acting, but Jeremy Clarkson had to be carted off the track while driving one because he injured his neck on a particularly tight corner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXFSVoVqh…

Let me share a gem:

https://youtu.be/9ElvaHArai4

do activate the subtitles!

Best MOTORing January 2011. ""Super Sports Battle in Sugo""

Cars: NISSAN GT-R, MB SLS AMG, FERRARI 430 SD, PORSCHE 911Turbo S, AUDI R8 5.2

Drivers:Keiichi ""DK"" Tsuchiya Naomi Hattori, Takayuki Kinoshita, Seiji Ara, Tetsuya Tanaka

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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>Until then, he remains a once-big-fish in a small pond, living in exile and under armed guard in Beirut for the foreseeable future. How secure is he in Beruit? If Japan really wanted him badly, I would guess he would be pretty easy for Israeli Mossad to pick up.

Wtf would Mossad get involved, and if they did why would they send him to Japan. If he were funding Hezbollah (other than through paying taxes in Lebanon), they'd have gotten him anyway by now.

Taxes dont go to fund Hezbollah in Lebanon. For one simple reason. Taxes are never collected. If they were the country wouldn't be in a financial crisis.

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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> in a country which has a 99.4% conviction rate. Brutal. Either they're really good at building the necessary evidence or they're just ruthless when it comes to criminal justice. Based on the other comments in this thread, it seems the latter. It's interesting to me how a society that prides itself on honor can act so dishonorably when it comes to human rights. This applies to their work ethics as well. They have th…

> It's interesting to me how a society that prides itself on honor can act so dishonorably when it comes to human rights.

Honor has different definitions for different cultures.

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Nissan may have been saved, but it came at the cost of their reputation. According to my auto mechanic friends Nissan once ranked up there with Toyota and Honda for reliability, but their quality plummeted after the Renault deal.

> According to my auto mechanic friends Nissan once ranked up there with Toyota and Honda for reliability, but their quality plummeted after the Renault deal. Nissan went to crap when they took a controlling stake in JATCO and started using those god awful CVT's in everything, and then stopped putting any effort into their sports cars to keep them competitive enough to lure enthusiasts to their brand. I owned a GT-R…

Yes, CVTs are crap. Every time I consider purchasing a car (used or new) I pass over the CVT offerings — which include most (all?) of Nissan's line up.

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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>For more than a year, Mr Ghosn spent long periods in custody or was held under house arrest in Tokyo after being bailed. It was not clear when a trial would take place - the fear was it could take years - and Mr Ghosn faced a further 15 years in prison if convicted, in a country which has a 99.4% conviction rate.

>It was during a period of house arrest, when Mr Ghosn was told he would not be allowed to have any contact with his wife, Carole, that he decided to find a way out.

Holy cow - that's an insane system for a 'modern western democracy'...

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

#140

So, the justice system in Japan enforces additional restrictions after a person is out on bail ? He couldn't meet his wife seems like an unreasonable condition for someone out on bail. Also, is the justice system in Japan so backed up that he would have to wait years for it go to trial ?

> He couldn't meet his wife seems like an unreasonable condition for someone out on bail It’s also not ridiculous? She isn’t his lawyer. He’s accused of a multibillion dollar fraud. And he was clearly a flight risk, one she personally amplified.

> She isn’t his lawyer. He’s accused of a multibillion dollar fraud. And he was clearly a flight risk, one she personally amplified.

A) He was not in prison at the time B) Even incarcerated prisoners in most countries are allowed visits from their family C) It appears that keeping them apart is what actually amplified his flight risk, not letting them meet.

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