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Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by dang »

knolax wrote: post #238
cromwellian wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Xi wasn't even in power in 2008. Shows how politically illiterate you google employees are. > China under Xi is fascist. Mass rallies under a glorified leader for life. Calls to return to a mythic past of nationhood under national rejuvenation. What's the difference between Nuremberg rallies, and the mass rallies the CCP runs? The near constant glorification of the CCP and Xi, the huge number of young people in the p…

If you break the site guidelines like this again, we will ban you. Maybe you don't owe the other side better but you most certainly owe this community better if you're participating in it. No more of this, please.

Both of you have behaved disgracefully.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by dang »

cromwellian wrote: post #241
knolax wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Xi wasn't even in power in 2008. Shows how politically illiterate you google employees are. > China under Xi is fascist. Mass rallies under a glorified leader for life. Calls to return to a mythic past of nationhood under national rejuvenation. What's the difference between Nuremberg rallies, and the mass rallies the CCP runs? The near constant glorification of the CCP and Xi, the huge number of young people in the p…

Xi was a member of the Standing Committee in 2008 and he was given the political responsibility for the 2008 Olympics. Maybe before your 玻璃心 breaks you should learn a little bit about your own country’s history before you go around tossing insults. As for use of national security as an excuse, I’ve been protesting the NSA for 3 decades. I released one of the first anonymizing web proxies and designed anonymous mailer…

If you break the site guidelines like this again, we will ban you. Maybe you don't owe the other side better but you most certainly owe this community better if you're participating in it. No more of this, please.

Both of you have behaved disgracefully.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by dekhn »

nostrademons wrote: post #247
dekhn wrote: post #242

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But... why? It's just a balloon with internet. All the failures would be a lack of business model, not the technology.

A quick list of issues that early engineers had to solve with Loon: 1. Can you get wi-fi reception on the ground from a balloon? How big a transmitter, how big a power source, how long can you keep it going for, and how much weight do you need to spend on batteries for this? 2. Will your wi-fi reception cut out if a tall building happens to pass between you and the balloon? How do you mitigate this? Do you need dupli…

Much of what you describe are pedestrian problems that could be addressed by straightforward, low-risk engineering. The issues with wifi reception around buildings were solved by AT&T when they developed the tech for mobile phones long ago. All the balloon control stuff- people have navigated balloons around the world for a while now. Using the altitude changes to navigate is standard.

That you need a team of NAVY SEALs to clean up your messes is a sign you're doing it wrong.

After working at Google for 12 years, I am always amazed at how people talk up their projects as risky when really, there's little or no risk involved, and the majority of the problems are political or social opposition to your plans, as well as the lack of a business model.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by allyourhorses »

dekhn wrote: post #253
nostrademons wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A quick list of issues that early engineers had to solve with Loon: 1. Can you get wi-fi reception on the ground from a balloon? How big a transmitter, how big a power source, how long can you keep it going for, and how much weight do you need to spend on batteries for this? 2. Will your wi-fi reception cut out if a tall building happens to pass between you and the balloon? How do you mitigate this? Do you need dupli…

Much of what you describe are pedestrian problems that could be addressed by straightforward, low-risk engineering. The issues with wifi reception around buildings were solved by AT&T when they developed the tech for mobile phones long ago. All the balloon control stuff- people have navigated balloons around the world for a while now. Using the altitude changes to navigate is standard. That you need a team of NAVY SE…

Parent comment is classical old guard mentality Googler who thinks if something sounds big and impressive it automatically is big and impressive. It was a marketing trick that weirdly infected employees throughout the org, glad to see here the trick has all but completely lost its effect.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by knolax »

dang wrote: post #251
knolax wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Xi wasn't even in power in 2008. Shows how politically illiterate you google employees are. > China under Xi is fascist. Mass rallies under a glorified leader for life. Calls to return to a mythic past of nationhood under national rejuvenation. What's the difference between Nuremberg rallies, and the mass rallies the CCP runs? The near constant glorification of the CCP and Xi, the huge number of young people in the p…

If you break the site guidelines like this again, we will ban you. Maybe you don't owe the other side better but you most certainly owe this community better if you're participating in it. No more of this, please. Both of you have behaved disgracefully. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Delete my account.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by knolax »

dang wrote: post #252
cromwellian wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Xi was a member of the Standing Committee in 2008 and he was given the political responsibility for the 2008 Olympics. Maybe before your 玻璃心 breaks you should learn a little bit about your own country’s history before you go around tossing insults. As for use of national security as an excuse, I’ve been protesting the NSA for 3 decades. I released one of the first anonymizing web proxies and designed anonymous mailer…

If you break the site guidelines like this again, we will ban you. Maybe you don't owe the other side better but you most certainly owe this community better if you're participating in it. No more of this, please. Both of you have behaved disgracefully. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Delete ny account.
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