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Re: Firefox 90

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Post by WorldMaker »

ducktective wrote: post #26
rubyist5eva wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you use it?

Obviously not as much as HTTP(s) but still there are FTP links which show up after a google search from time to time...I guess now I have to context switch to the file explorer...Thunar is OK but does Windows Explorer even support FTP?

Windows' File Explorer briefly flirted with WebDAV (and still sort of supports it for backward compatibility reasons, but using it is harder than ever for new things and the buggy WebDAV implementation is mostly frozen with its early oughts idea of WebDAV quirks). It never supported FTP, because it skipped FTP for WebDAV.

Now that File Explorer has a 9p file server (from Plan 9) built in for WSL1/2 support, I wonder if you could hack together good Plan 9 style FTP support for File Explorer. I don't think the 9p server is that easy to talk to directly, though. (You could of course just do a Linux mount to FTP in WSL and maybe accomplish that through two step indirection, but I'd imagine doing something more directly in 9p would be preferable.)

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by Avery3R »

pseudalopex wrote: post #68
johnchristopher wrote: post #56

> The "Open Image in New Tab" context menu item now opens images and media in a background tab by default. Learn more Ahaaaa ! Yes ! I could have sworn it had been the default behavior and it got changed at some point but I never bothered to track that down. Can anyone confirm ?

The default was the same tab until Firefox 88. They changed it to a new tab to match Chrome. And removed the same tab option because they couldn't imagine why anyone would want it.[1] [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1699128#c3

If you middle clicked the view in same tab button it would open the link in a background tab instead of the same one.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #58

Background updates! Hooray! That may sound like a basic table stakes feature but honestly it's a huge improvement. And a lot of other apps do a terrible job of it, particularly on Windows. It's remarkable how many apps require 8, 10 mouse clicks and a restart to install a minor update. Firefox didn't require any clicks but the nag / need to restart was a nuisance. Actually now that I type that I wonder what has chang…

This is about when Firefox isn't running. The background update as you take it to mean has been the case for about a decade.

Re: Firefox 90

#84

Post by commoner »

shakow wrote: post #67
tempest_ wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember seeing a lot of complaining about the tabs in the last release thread but they dont seem to bother me at all. What is the issue with the new tabs?

IMHO, they're pretty, but waste quite some space for no gain apart prettinnes.

There is a petition on the Mozilla Ideas forum to retain the "Compact" interface option, which would conserve space in the tab bar:

https://mozilla.crowdicity.com/post/719764

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by WorldMaker »

akho wrote: post #57
metalliqaz wrote: post #7

Honestly I'm still not used to the new tab style that was introduced last time. 90 seems fine, but not much to get excited about from the user perspective.

The tab bar is functionally useless if you have > 10 tabs open, so I don't even know why I'd notice. Aesthetically, it's fine for me. Option to hide it completely (replacing with a mobile-style full-screen modal view with properly sized previews and keyboard navigation / fuzzy finding if you allow me to dream) would be nice.

Yeah, I'm fine with them taking up more vertical space, but it's the reduction in horizontal space that most hurts usability, especially with more icons that show up now next to the favicons, further reducing available space. It's still better/preferable than Chromium/Chrome's awful shrinking tabs horizontally down all the way to just favicons when you have a lot of tabs, but it's getting close to feeling that cramped.

(I also though have moved a lot of my day-to-day tab switching to Tree Style Tabs, though. I'd probably be angrier if I was already using an add-on like that.)

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by bserge »

johnchristopher wrote: post #56

> The "Open Image in New Tab" context menu item now opens images and media in a background tab by default. Learn more Ahaaaa ! Yes ! I could have sworn it had been the default behavior and it got changed at some point but I never bothered to track that down. Can anyone confirm ?

It's standard behaviour on middle mouse button click which I use.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by Avery3R »

WorldMaker wrote: post #81
ducktective wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously not as much as HTTP(s) but still there are FTP links which show up after a google search from time to time...I guess now I have to context switch to the file explorer...Thunar is OK but does Windows Explorer even support FTP?

Windows' File Explorer briefly flirted with WebDAV (and still sort of supports it for backward compatibility reasons, but using it is harder than ever for new things and the buggy WebDAV implementation is mostly frozen with its early oughts idea of WebDAV quirks). It never supported FTP, because it skipped FTP for WebDAV. Now that File Explorer has a 9p file server (from Plan 9) built in for WSL1/2 support, I wonder…

I haven't tested up to more modern versions but explorer at least up to Vista had an ftp client built in, albeit not a very good one.

Edit: Just tested on Win 10 1809, ftp support is still built-in to file explorer.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by rvz »

deregulateMed wrote: post #55
vbezhenar wrote: post #31

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Safari is the real alternative keeping web open. Firefox does not serve that role anymore.

A closed browser with limited features made by a unethical company is keeping the web open? I'll take FOSS chromium variants before I give my data to Apple(and by proxy, the US and Chinese government).

> made by a unethical company is keeping the web open?

There are no angels with the known contenders of "keeping the web open" unless you want to use SerenityOS's web browser that they made themselves.

Unless you are using a very exotic OS that has a browser, I'm not sure how you can begin to defend a chromium variant still derived by an unethical company (Because you have to update that fork) and then attack another unethical company for giving your data to them.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

brewdad wrote: post #41
ducktective wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously not as much as HTTP(s) but still there are FTP links which show up after a google search from time to time...I guess now I have to context switch to the file explorer...Thunar is OK but does Windows Explorer even support FTP?

The rare times I've needed FTP on Windows, I've found Cyberduck sufficient to do the job.

If you don't mind an abysmal speed (due to small buffer size), then Windows Explorer can access FTP (but no FTPS).
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