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Re: Firefox 90

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Post by vbezhenar »

historyloop wrote: post #19
tapoxi wrote: post #5

I think Firefox has ~5% of our user base. It's hard to justify running separate tests for it anymore. I wish they'd just become a privacy-focused Chromium fork because I don't see them crawling back to a meaningful marketshare at this rate. (Yeah I know multiple implementations and all that, but we don't have many people running FreeBSD just to give Linux some competition.)

Google already singlehandedly controls the web standards. Firefox and Safari are the last obstacles to them basically privatizing the web. The independent Chromium distributions do very little to that effect, as they're not incentivized to specifically disable features Google puts in. If Firefox goes away, kiss the open web goodbye. We'll have it on paper, but just that. It'll be Google's web.

Safari is the real alternative keeping web open. Firefox does not serve that role anymore.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by dopu »

Excited that there's more progress being done in implementing proper site isolation. Would be great to not feel like I'm losing something in sticking with FF over Chromium-based browsers.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by agumonkey »

ducktective wrote: post #14
btgeekboy wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a terrible protocol not built for the modern internet. It’s been a while since I’ve seen a URL containing “ftp” that isn’t prefixed by http://

Lots of university file dumps are served on FTP...

and a lot more, it's a bit sad to lose ftp

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by agumonkey »

metalliqaz wrote: post #7

Honestly I'm still not used to the new tab style that was introduced last time. 90 seems fine, but not much to get excited about from the user perspective.

I'm still not adjusted to it and will probably never be.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by wmanley »

> * Most users without hardware accelerated WebRender will now be using software WebRender.

> * Improved software WebRender performance

This sounds interesting. Does anyone know where I could read more about this?

Re: Firefox 90

#36

Post by foepys »

nicoburns wrote: post #20
mnd999 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish more people would run FreeBSD because it would make both Linux and FreeBSD stronger. Single platforms stagnate, we’ve seen it before with IE6 and we’re starting to see it again.

> Single platforms stagnate, we’ve seen it before with IE6 and we’re starting to see it again. They do, but at least chromium is open source. If it stagnated like IE6 then someone would fork it.

> someone would fork it.

This myth needs to die. Yes, somebody would fork it but it would very, very quickly become stale as well. It costs tens of millions to develop a browser engine nowadays, it's not something a few hobbyists can develop in the evening after their day job.

Microsoft didn't choose Chromium for their new Edge engine because they love Google, they chose it purely from an economic point of view. Even Microsoft doesn't want to develop a browser engine. Microsoft.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by scrollaway »

ducktective wrote: post #26
rubyist5eva wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you use it?

Obviously not as much as HTTP(s) but still there are FTP links which show up after a google search from time to time...I guess now I have to context switch to the file explorer...Thunar is OK but does Windows Explorer even support FTP?

There are more mailto: links on the web than ftp: ones, and yet most browsers don't natively do email.

Firefox didnt remove the protocol from existence. They just removed a feature nobody uses, which is better handled outside the browser.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by bugmen0t »

zerop wrote: post #30

Any article/guide on how big open source projects like firefox, Linux kernel are released? I believe developers around world contribute to code. What's testing, release process like? How to they manage it?

Hi. Firefox developer speaking here. Feel free to take a look at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Release_Management/Release_Process and https://aosabook.org/en/ffreleng.html. The latter is quite outdated but some core assumptions are still valid. Our CI is hosted at https://treeherder.mozilla.org/jobs?repo=autoland . Every patch that is uploaded will be tested before and after it goes into a branch. Firefox Nightly ships directly from that branch. The changes will be "promoted" to Beta (and subsequently Release) every four weeks. Our community hangs out on Matrix and is very Open to newcomer questions and other contributors. In fact, we Vene have an introduction channel and list good first bugs on bugzilla (searchable through something called "Codetribute")

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by [deleted] »

zerop wrote: post #30

Any article/guide on how big open source projects like firefox, Linux kernel are released? I believe developers around world contribute to code. What's testing, release process like? How to they manage it?

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