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> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA! Defeatist thinking. As they say, pessimists get to be right, but optimists get to be rich.
How's that working out for you?
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Until you have multiple cars trying to project multiple arrays of infrared dots onto objects 20 meters away in bright sunlight and then getting an accurate reading on which of the array kerfuffle is theirs.
A very quickly pulsed projector and a correspondingly short exposure would strongly decrease the chance of observing someone else’s dots. It would improve performance in bright light as well.
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The rate of driving fatalities is ~1 per 60 million miles driven. At an average speed of 60 mph that would be ~1 per million hours. Even if we were to assume there would be only one fatality-inducing error per hour, 99.99% success rate would make FSD 9 100x more dangerous than the average driver. I do not remember the exact numbers, but that would make FSD something like 1000x more dangerous than the classic example…
That's your estimation but we'd need to wait with actual statistics
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The flickering is concerning. Kind of suggests their NN hasn’t learned basic object persistence yet.
That's the thing. The software shouldn't have to "learn" fundamental basic real world shit like that. We KNOW that things don't just flicker in and out of existence. The system should be built on that premise from the start.
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> I don't understand how something this broken is allowed to operate on public roads. It's important to point out that this software is currently only offered as a private beta to deliberately selected testers. Now, maybe they shouldn't be using it on public roads either, but at least it's not available to the general public.
Because the self driving stuff in the other Teslas works well?
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Andrej Karpathy already explained they were getting too much noise from Radar. Adding LIDAR would only complicated it. Unless you have better knowledge than Andrej Karpathy, I’ll go with his word on this. Edit: nitrogen I can’t comment directly on yours, so I’ll ass it here. That’s a good goal to have and they tried that for well over two years. They found too much noise and confusion. If Radar says one thing and Vis…
> If Radar says one thing and Vision says another over and over who do you trust? Neither? If you don't have a tiebreaker you disengage and let the human decide. We solved this problem in systems long ago. You either fail open or fail closed depending on the system. In this case it seems like you'd always fail to the safest option which is alert the human.
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> drivers who are not trained to specifically respond to it's mistakes What would this entail? Perhaps some sort of "license" which allows the user to operator a motor vehicle?
Giant obxonious flashing lights and blinking signs stating "Student Self Driving tech on board"
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Because America does not yet require that its citizens ask mommy and daddy for permission for every thing they do.
It would be a glorious honor to have my 'FSD' Tesla drive into a giant concrete pillar, causing my car to explode and erupt into flames.
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> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA! Defeatist thinking. As they say, pessimists get to be right, but optimists get to be rich.
It's really not optimism, it's self-delusion that does improve the chance of sucessful outcomes. If I recall correctly Hayek actually writes about it as some point, I can't recall exactly where though.
I don't understand how something this broken is allowed to operate on public roads. If I drove like Tesla's FSD seems to based on the videos I've seen, I'd be pulled out of my car and arrested on (well founded) suspicions of "driving while hammered." After a decade of work, it's not capable of doing much beyond "blundering around a city mostly without hitting stuff, but pay attention, because it'll try to hit the mos…
With that being said, even if it comes out of beta. I would likely only use it for extended highway travel in clear conditions.