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Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by antonzabirko »

j1elo wrote: post #4

I'm always amazed by people who don't bat an eye on the perspective of having a home server, sucking up electricity 24/7. In this case replacing a typical router (which consumes like a lightbulb), with a full-fledged PC (probably consuming like x100 the power). I guess some people around the world have quite cheap utility bills! For me, it's either a Raspberry Pi type of power consumption, or else a server that only…

I mean if it's a problem just solve it. Yes, the folks in texas who have to pay 10x for electricity probably shouldn't get in if thuy can't afford it. Also, get solar/wind if you are concerned aboit the impact.

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by zymhan »

ta988 wrote: post #149
iforgotpassword wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I can unfortunately confirm this. Don't know how much has changed, but about a year ago my current employer evaluated about 10 desktop pcs from dell, lenovo, hp and the likes as all staff was supposed to get new machines. One of the important criteria was power consumption. The few AMD systems that were among the contestants had absolutely ridiculous idle consumption and weren't even considered any further.

At work people leave their computers and screens on (and unlocked most of the time)... (edit): I tried to educate but nobody really care...

Hence the need for lower idle power consumption

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by swiley »

j1elo wrote: post #4

I'm always amazed by people who don't bat an eye on the perspective of having a home server, sucking up electricity 24/7. In this case replacing a typical router (which consumes like a lightbulb), with a full-fledged PC (probably consuming like x100 the power). I guess some people around the world have quite cheap utility bills! For me, it's either a Raspberry Pi type of power consumption, or else a server that only…

Many of these things are really competing with a $20/mo VPS so a full PC that's on 24/7 is still cheaper. Yes you could go further: use portable slim apps that fit on ARM SBCs but then you have to re-do your server config and learn a new app.

Plus, at least for me, my PC is on 24/7 anyway.

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by judge2020 »

ta988 wrote: post #149
iforgotpassword wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I can unfortunately confirm this. Don't know how much has changed, but about a year ago my current employer evaluated about 10 desktop pcs from dell, lenovo, hp and the likes as all staff was supposed to get new machines. One of the important criteria was power consumption. The few AMD systems that were among the contestants had absolutely ridiculous idle consumption and weren't even considered any further.

At work people leave their computers and screens on (and unlocked most of the time)... (edit): I tried to educate but nobody really care...

Maybe in your office, but when I was in the office we had a culture of pressing Win+L or the dedicated lock key on the keyboard and letting Windows turn off the display after a minute of being on the lock screen.

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by cinntaile »

josephcsible wrote: post #137
teekert wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My home server is about 70W, meaning about 150€ a year (~0.20 eur/kWH). So about 12€ a month. For one of my biggest hobbies. It’s fun, but it also runs WireGuard, 3 NextCloud installs, Home Assistant and Mosquitto, 2 MineCraft servers, a FoundryVTT instance, samba, sabnzbd, Unify Controller, an Nginx static site, LibreSpeed, VaultWarden and soon a Django site. Oh and a virtual desktop (vnc) I can always leave running…

> (~0.20 eur/kWH) Are such high electricity prices common in Europe? That's higher than it is in 49 of the 50 US states (assuming 0.20 EUR = 0.24 USD, and with Hawaii being the exception).

In Western Europe at least this is quite common. Mostly because politicians have discovered this as a great tax resource.

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by quaintdev »

t0mas88 wrote: post #38
ianai wrote: post #19

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The machine's clearly massive overkill for routing. Another commenter points out it typically runs around 50w - and the OP says they're also using it as a server in this thread.

The problem is running it 24x7, then a small 50w is still 438 Kwh each year. That's more than a 10% increase in yearly use for a typical two person household...

How about people power this stuff with renewalbles like solar?

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by j1elo »

flatiron wrote: post #135
j1elo wrote: post #4

I'm always amazed by people who don't bat an eye on the perspective of having a home server, sucking up electricity 24/7. In this case replacing a typical router (which consumes like a lightbulb), with a full-fledged PC (probably consuming like x100 the power). I guess some people around the world have quite cheap utility bills! For me, it's either a Raspberry Pi type of power consumption, or else a server that only…

I run just plex and pi hole. Money I save with plex that I don’t need a million different services and having no ads at home is well worth the price. One day my friends went out and I couldn’t go. They got all drunk and shared how much they rely on my plex and by the time I woke up I had close to $1k in PayPal and a note that said “for an upgrade and your time” so honestly I probably making out on the deal. Went from…

I've been looking at the offers of big providers and the average seems to be pretty much standard: 2 TB for $10/month. All across Dropbox, Google, Apple, even Microsoft (the individual plan) are in the same ballpark.

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by ta988 »

judge2020 wrote: post #154
ta988 wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At work people leave their computers and screens on (and unlocked most of the time)... (edit): I tried to educate but nobody really care...

Maybe in your office, but when I was in the office we had a culture of pressing Win+L or the dedicated lock key on the keyboard and letting Windows turn off the display after a minute of being on the lock screen.

Yes I tried to explain both the energy and security reasons behind locking and hibernate/sleep.

Re: 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build

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Post by selectodude »

josephcsible wrote: post #137
teekert wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My home server is about 70W, meaning about 150€ a year (~0.20 eur/kWH). So about 12€ a month. For one of my biggest hobbies. It’s fun, but it also runs WireGuard, 3 NextCloud installs, Home Assistant and Mosquitto, 2 MineCraft servers, a FoundryVTT instance, samba, sabnzbd, Unify Controller, an Nginx static site, LibreSpeed, VaultWarden and soon a Django site. Oh and a virtual desktop (vnc) I can always leave running…

> (~0.20 eur/kWH) Are such high electricity prices common in Europe? That's higher than it is in 49 of the 50 US states (assuming 0.20 EUR = 0.24 USD, and with Hawaii being the exception).

Electricity in the EU is really really expensive. That person is actually paying below average rates.
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