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The life of a private tutor (2020)

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Re: The life of a private tutor (2020)

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related, in china it was just announced that private tutoring will be m̶a̶d̶e̶ ̶i̶l̶l̶e̶g̶a̶l̶ severely restricted. https://www.reuters.com/world/china/exclusive-china-unveil-t...

The article linked is much more nuanced than just 'private tutoring will be made illegal'

you are right, i was quoting the headline of another source that was based on the reuters article.

Re: The life of a private tutor (2020)

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I picked this up from my time watching those British period pieces, so this might be an assumption based on a fictional telling of the past, but hasn't this concept of being a private teacher/tutor been around for hundreds of years? As these shows always showed the aristocracy, the aspiring hero/heroin had their private teachers "guiding them to greatness". I also found it cynical that instead of aspiring to get a Ph…

The article quotes someone paying her £70/hour for the tutoring. Given that's also contract rates, and there's no other perks from the company (such as bonus or healthcare, but admittedly healthcare may be less of an issue in the UK), that's not all that favorable to a FAANG employee's compensation, as I understand it.

Re: The life of a private tutor (2020)

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One of the most important competitive advantages in modern world is motivation to do things on your own. And all this tutoring that kids are forced to be doing by adults is killing it.

So true but this youngster doesn't sound like someone who needs to win, he is already made. All he (or his parents) want is to look like they are successful by saying, "Little Johnny got 15 GCSEs".

If only it were so.

What is being purchased is the right to feel that they worked hard enough to deserve what they are certain to get anyway.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes! The thing that was missing in the original article was answering the most important question in all of this: Does Tutoring Work? The implication left for a reader of the original article is that tutoring is mostly about exam-prep or that it is under-regulated, ineffectual, and a folly of the rich. But the truth is that the over-regulation of conventional time-based classroom learning is deeply flawed based on ou…

> we need people to teach as part of how they learn. I've got a principle I came up with called LTD: Learn, Teach, Do. The idea is to prioritize activities where I can be doing all three at the same time. An example would be pair programming with a junior on a new problem where I don't know how to solve every part of the problem. "Learn on the job together with a team, and share learnings as you go" is basically the…

teaching is a very effective method of learning. in one community that i am part of it is emphasized that most of the benefits of teaching go to the teacher.

as for a school model, montessori groups children in age-groups spanning 3 years, and older children there routinely teach the younger ones.

Re: The life of a private tutor (2020)

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One of the most important competitive advantages in modern world is motivation to do things on your own. And all this tutoring that kids are forced to be doing by adults is killing it.

Not really sure that is a proven advantage. I have always been self-motivated and had teachers who just left me to get on with it and marked anything I handed in to them. You still have to send out the right signals to people who don't know you.

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I picked this up from my time watching those British period pieces, so this might be an assumption based on a fictional telling of the past, but hasn't this concept of being a private teacher/tutor been around for hundreds of years? As these shows always showed the aristocracy, the aspiring hero/heroin had their private teachers "guiding them to greatness". I also found it cynical that instead of aspiring to get a Ph…

>instead of aspiring to get a PhD to earn a mediocre salary(in comparison) at FANNG As a PhD at FAANG[1], I mourn that the default aspiration for getting a PhD isn't staying in academia and advancing science. And if you call FAANG salaries mediocre, I don't even know what you'd call academia salaries :( ------- [1] Formerly. Left for greener and less soul-draining pastures.

> And if you call FAANG salaries mediocre (in comparison)

The wording of the sentence wasn't ideal, but GP was implying you could potentially make a lot more as a private tutor than you would at a FAANG. I'd argue that is a bit of rose colored glasses as there are far more making 200k a year at a FAANG than there are million dollar a year making private tutors.

Re: The life of a private tutor (2020)

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One would think that in the internet era, where so much information and knowledge are avaialble online for free, those would disappear. Apprently not.

Knowledge access is hardly the problem.

Yeah, many engineering and science fields are much more than just software, for example, so it's important to get access to and experience with various hardware equipment and even get to contribute on cutting edge work usually funded by various companies from industry.

Re: The life of a private tutor (2020)

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post #49

I picked this up from my time watching those British period pieces, so this might be an assumption based on a fictional telling of the past, but hasn't this concept of being a private teacher/tutor been around for hundreds of years? As these shows always showed the aristocracy, the aspiring hero/heroin had their private teachers "guiding them to greatness". I also found it cynical that instead of aspiring to get a Ph…

>instead of aspiring to get a PhD to earn a mediocre salary(in comparison) at FANNG As a PhD at FAANG[1], I mourn that the default aspiration for getting a PhD isn't staying in academia and advancing science. And if you call FAANG salaries mediocre, I don't even know what you'd call academia salaries :( ------- [1] Formerly. Left for greener and less soul-draining pastures.

Isn’t there already overproduction of PhDs?

Re: The life of a private tutor (2020)

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The Economist starts writing daring pieces again. It seems that the mainstream media in Britain starts to realize the mess they have created in the last decade and throws around the rudder. Hopefully the continent will follow.

It’s not an Economist article, it’s an 1843 article. 1843 is an Economist spinoff that focuses on “culture.” It let’s them take risks while preserving their core product.

Re: The life of a private tutor (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I attended an "elite" boys school back in the 1990s. It was a doctor and lawyer factory. Everyone went to university and most got advanced degrees. But I talked to a teacher there recently. The students are now so wealthy that they are hard to motivate. Doctors have to touch sick people. Lawyers have to go work in an office. The students at my old school today don't dream of success. They all pass, they all do well,…

although genuine, this analysis is sort of 2D cutout characterization, which feeds class stereotypes in another way.. "When I was in school, I had to walk 2 miles every day, uphill both ways! .. you people are less motivated" sort of applies Modern life has the number of human signals daily, increased to stratospheric levels.. this is new, very new. It is not clear how intelligent, social people are changing under th…

The fact that an experience is stereotypical doesn't meant it is also inaccurate.

Students today do not have it easier. They are working less hard at school because they need to work harder in other areas. Grades don't matter. Everyone gets strait-As so as long as you meat that standard there is little point in trying harder. Even Going to a good school matters less and less. The things kids have to do today are very different than I faced. For me, grades were enough. For today's kids grades are only the starting point. For instance, social media presence is now very important. I never had to deal with that when I was applying to universities.

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