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Launch HN: Pabio (YC S21) – Interior design and furniture rental as a service

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Re: Launch HN: Pabio (YC S21) – Interior design and furniture rental as a service

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Post by atlasunshrugged »

anandchowdhary wrote: post #5
atlasunshrugged wrote: post #2

Very cool, two random questions. Can you talk more about how the buyouts work? When you do the move out do you also have shipping for an extra fee? Often when I've moved out of an apartment I have at least a few boxes of personal stuff to ship and it'd be nice if the company already hauling stuff away from my place could just do it all

> Can you talk more about how the buyouts work? How the buyout works in general is that all your monthly payments go towards ownership. Say you have a contract for $400 per month for 2 years, and your furniture costs $12,000. At the end of this period, you can either (i) pay the difference, i.e., $2,400, and you own the furniture; (ii) continue the subscription until you've paid the amount back; or (iii) you can sign…

Sweet, best of luck! I'll look you up the next time I move to Europe :)

Re: Launch HN: Pabio (YC S21) – Interior design and furniture rental as a service

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Post by MattGaiser »

CSDude wrote: post #14
vincentmarle wrote: post #6

> Why work at Pabio? > You’ll work mostly with cool people (Not all of us are cool, but the majority are.) Seriously wondering who the uncool people would be and what it would be like to work with them

Why would they even say that: "There are uncool people here, beware." Obviously not everyone in a workplace can be "cool" but I see no point mentioning it.

Explain away social awkwardness/weird interactions? Cool would not be a word I associate with myself for that reason.

Re: Launch HN: Pabio (YC S21) – Interior design and furniture rental as a service

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Post by carlobadini »

shafyy wrote: post #23

Hey Carlo, nice to see see you guys on here and great to see a Swiss company in YC! Congrats. Cheers, Can (from Chimpy).

Hey Can! Thank you so much, man! Really appreciate it! My phone is docked to a Chimpy right now (no joke).

Re: Launch HN: Pabio (YC S21) – Interior design and furniture rental as a service

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Post by shafyy »

carlobadini wrote: post #24
shafyy wrote: post #23

Hey Carlo, nice to see see you guys on here and great to see a Swiss company in YC! Congrats. Cheers, Can (from Chimpy).

Hey Can! Thank you so much, man! Really appreciate it! My phone is docked to a Chimpy right now (no joke).

Haha, glad we can be helpful :-)

Re: Launch HN: Pabio (YC S21) – Interior design and furniture rental as a service

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Post by fawniture »

anandchowdhary wrote: post #8
EMM_386 wrote: post #4

Very interesting, and something I'd be interested in at the moment. But I am hesitant on the price point. At ~$4,800 / year as with the sample proposal, it might be a tough sell (or "rent", in this case). The other options are to hire a designer and buy the furniture. High upfront cost but you still own the furniture and can always re-sell it to recoup some costs. Yes, this is a hassle. But how much is the hassle wor…

> At ~$4,800 / year as with the sample proposal, it might be a tough sell (or "rent", in this case). Thanks for the feedback, I agree that it's not extremely affordable yet, and we're trying hard to get the price down. We currently work with a retail partner but plan on going direct-to-consumer soon, which should make our package more affordable. Since we currently only serve the Swiss market, it's common for unfurni…

> it's common for unfurnished apartments in Zurich cost upwards of $2,000, so adding $400 on top of that for a really beautiful interior package is not that big of a jump, especially when compared to fully-furnished apartments which cost significant more.

I'd be mindful of that assumption across markets. I'm in London and while furnishing may have an impact on the list price for some properties, list price is almost always a product of the market and it's rarely possible to quantify the _cost of furnishing_. For example, apartments in my building are roughly the same price whether furnished or unfurnished. Furnishing is seen as a convenience here[1], not a financial benefit.

I do think this is a great proposition and that, once prices come down, you'll have a good opportunity in London -- just challenging the assumption that furnishing is universally reflected in price :)

[1] Typically, a furnished property is easier to tenant, so landlords can choose between furnishing (easier to find a tenant, risk of expensive damage) or unfurnished (harder to find a tenant, no risk of damage). Very common to see a furnished property offered "furnished or unfurnished" if someone wants to bring their own furniture, and that doesn't impact the price.

Re: Launch HN: Pabio (YC S21) – Interior design and furniture rental as a service

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Post by valvar »

anandchowdhary wrote: post #8
EMM_386 wrote: post #4

Very interesting, and something I'd be interested in at the moment. But I am hesitant on the price point. At ~$4,800 / year as with the sample proposal, it might be a tough sell (or "rent", in this case). The other options are to hire a designer and buy the furniture. High upfront cost but you still own the furniture and can always re-sell it to recoup some costs. Yes, this is a hassle. But how much is the hassle wor…

> At ~$4,800 / year as with the sample proposal, it might be a tough sell (or "rent", in this case). Thanks for the feedback, I agree that it's not extremely affordable yet, and we're trying hard to get the price down. We currently work with a retail partner but plan on going direct-to-consumer soon, which should make our package more affordable. Since we currently only serve the Swiss market, it's common for unfurni…

>it's common for unfurnished apartments in Zurich cost upwards of $2,000

I'd say that's the lower end, actually. Zürich is indeed pretty pricey.

Re: Launch HN: Pabio (YC S21) – Interior design and furniture rental as a service

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Post by whiddershins »

EMM_386 wrote: post #4

Very interesting, and something I'd be interested in at the moment. But I am hesitant on the price point. At ~$4,800 / year as with the sample proposal, it might be a tough sell (or "rent", in this case). The other options are to hire a designer and buy the furniture. High upfront cost but you still own the furniture and can always re-sell it to recoup some costs. Yes, this is a hassle. But how much is the hassle wor…

I paid an extra $500/month with an 11 month commitment for a furnished place over a non furnished. Maybe a little steep, I think I overpaid, but the one thing I will say to anyone reading this:

The benefits of living in a nicely arranged and furnished home can not be overstated. I work from home and my productivity ... and income ... and my peace of mind ... went up dramatically.

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