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Launch HN: Pabio (YC S21) – Interior design and furniture rental as a service

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Hi HN! We’re Carlo and Anand, and for the past few months, we’ve been building Pabio (https://pabio.com). With Pabio, you can get your apartment fully furnished by a professional interior designer and rent high-quality furniture on a monthly subscription.

After exiting our previous startups, we had some time on our hands and started visiting many friends at their homes for a coffee to talk about anything and everything. One thing stood out: In most cases, their apartment interior was awful — it was almost always crammed with cheap furniture that didn’t match with each other or the apartment. So, we asked our friends why they wouldn’t hire an interior designer and purchase nicer furniture that fits better, and most of them gave us two reasons: first, interior design seems elitist and expensive; and second, buying a full apartment interior is (a) too expensive, and (b) doesn’t make sense if you rent an apartment and don’t know how long you’re going to stay in it.

We figured that if we combine both things—interior design and furniture rental—we can create an affordable package for tenants that’s still very high-quality.

Here’s how it works:

The user uploads a floor plan of their apartment and takes some photos for our reference. Using these, we generate a 3D model of the apartment and one of our interior designers furnishes it. We send the user a fully rendered, photorealistic view of what their apartment will look like [1]. If they like it, they sign up, we deliver and install all furniture, and the user pays a monthly subscription fee. We also fully insure all items and offer optional add-on services like electricians and bi-weekly cleaning. Once they move out, we take all the furniture back, renovate it, and place it in a new apartment at a discounted price.

For the whole process to work smoothly, we developed a semi-automated rendering workflow. We built a web-based drawing tool that allows us to easily draw a floor plan, drag-and-drop furniture items on it, and convert it to structured data [2]. We send this JSON instruction file to a Blender instance where we run a Python script to generate renders using our custom Blender plugins. This process is not fully finalized yet, so we usually have to manually adjust some parameters like the camera placement or applying filters, but give it a few more months (or years... heh), and we’ll be able to end-to-end automate the floor plan-to-render process.

Although a lot of our core tech is internal tooling such as the rendering service [2], Pabio.com serves as the web app where users can plan their furniture deliveries, file insurance claims, manage billing, etc. You can test out Pabio at https://pabio.com, or check out a sample proposal that we send to customers [1].

We’re very excited (and a bit nervous) to hear what you think! Please leave us your feedback and share your ideas about how we can improve our offering.

Thank you so much!

Carlo & Anand

[1] Sample proposal: https://pabio.com/sample-interior-design-concept

[2] 30-second demo of our internal interior design tool that generates renders: https://pabiousercontent.com/marketing-assets/launch-hn/desi...

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#2
Very cool, two random questions. Can you talk more about how the buyouts work? When you do the move out do you also have shipping for an extra fee? Often when I've moved out of an apartment I have at least a few boxes of personal stuff to ship and it'd be nice if the company already hauling stuff away from my place could just do it all

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Very interesting, and something I'd be interested in at the moment.

But I am hesitant on the price point. At ~$4,800 / year as with the sample proposal, it might be a tough sell (or "rent", in this case).

The other options are to hire a designer and buy the furniture. High upfront cost but you still own the furniture and can always re-sell it to recoup some costs. Yes, this is a hassle. But how much is the hassle worth?

I can also just do a long-term AirBnb rental that comes fully furnished, many already with great style. Then I don't have to worry about any of this.

If I had a lot more disposable money than I currently have, and I had to get a place for an extended period of time, I'd do this in a heartbeat. So perhaps I am not the target market.

I wish you luck, there is certainly a market out there for something like this.

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#5

Very cool, two random questions. Can you talk more about how the buyouts work? When you do the move out do you also have shipping for an extra fee? Often when I've moved out of an apartment I have at least a few boxes of personal stuff to ship and it'd be nice if the company already hauling stuff away from my place could just do it all

> Can you talk more about how the buyouts work?

How the buyout works in general is that all your monthly payments go towards ownership. Say you have a contract for $400 per month for 2 years, and your furniture costs $12,000. At the end of this period, you can either (i) pay the difference, i.e., $2,400, and you own the furniture; (ii) continue the subscription until you've paid the amount back; or (iii) you can sign a new contract and get brand new furniture with no extra cost.

> When you do the move out do you also have shipping for an extra fee?

At this point, we don't, but that's also because we haven't had any move outs yet so we didn't consider the person items. We currently only move all your furniture at no additional charge. We can perhaps add a one-time paid addon service where we also move your personal items to your new apartment. Thanks for the great idea!

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#7

Have you guys heard of Fulhaus? I saw them on Dragon's Den (Canadian Shark Tank for you Americans) and they seem to have a similar model to this. Is your business model fairly similar?

CEO here: we actually didn't know them yet. But the website looks awesome. They seem to have a similar business model. We're operating in Europe as of now, though (That's across the Atlantic for you Canadians) ;)

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post #4

Very interesting, and something I'd be interested in at the moment. But I am hesitant on the price point. At ~$4,800 / year as with the sample proposal, it might be a tough sell (or "rent", in this case). The other options are to hire a designer and buy the furniture. High upfront cost but you still own the furniture and can always re-sell it to recoup some costs. Yes, this is a hassle. But how much is the hassle wor…

> At ~$4,800 / year as with the sample proposal, it might be a tough sell (or "rent", in this case).

Thanks for the feedback, I agree that it's not extremely affordable yet, and we're trying hard to get the price down. We currently work with a retail partner but plan on going direct-to-consumer soon, which should make our package more affordable.

Since we currently only serve the Swiss market, it's common for unfurnished apartments in Zurich cost upwards of $2,000, so adding $400 on top of that for a really beautiful interior package is not that big of a jump, especially when compared to fully-furnished apartments which cost significant more.

> The other options are to hire a designer and buy the furniture.

We also offer a buyout option, so all your monthly payments go toward ownership. Our goal is to ensure that you don't end up paying more during the course of your subscription than the retail price of the furniture if you were to purchase it all upfront.

> I wish you luck, there is certainly a market out there for something like this.

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Interesting concept. I have an office I could see this being useful for (though possibly a bit out of my price range, if I'm honest). One thing that stood out to me though is that all the examples were similar style (mid-century modern, maybe? I'm not a designer). More examples showcasing a range of styles could entice different clients. Research into styles in various regions (ie beach rentals vs ranch style vs mission/craftsman).

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post #4

Very interesting, and something I'd be interested in at the moment. But I am hesitant on the price point. At ~$4,800 / year as with the sample proposal, it might be a tough sell (or "rent", in this case). The other options are to hire a designer and buy the furniture. High upfront cost but you still own the furniture and can always re-sell it to recoup some costs. Yes, this is a hassle. But how much is the hassle wor…

> At ~$4,800 / year as with the sample proposal, it might be a tough sell (or "rent", in this case). Thanks for the feedback, I agree that it's not extremely affordable yet, and we're trying hard to get the price down. We currently work with a retail partner but plan on going direct-to-consumer soon, which should make our package more affordable. Since we currently only serve the Swiss market, it's common for unfurni…

Oops, missed that last one.

> I wish you luck, there is certainly a market out there for something like this.

Thanks so much! We're looking forward to more feedback!

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